Session Start: Wed May 30 19:42:38 2001
*** Now talking in #wen
*** Topic is 'Welcome To The Women's Erotica Network! Thursday Chat - 9PM Eastern Time '
<susanna> hello Geejay
> How're you doing? 
<geejay> hot!   my air conditioning not working :(
<geejay> how bout you?
> Ack.. where are you?
<geejay> the bee-yoo-ti-ful san fernando valley
<geejay> home of the strip mall
> LOL
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<susanna> still sound like fun!
> Didn't know you had electricity
> welcome, playful. 
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<susanna> LOL  Sandra
<susanna> time to spam icq
> Let's give it awhile before we start. 
<gigi> hehehe
<gigi> heyyyyy!
> LOL 
> Hugs, gigi
<geejay> they are waiting til i'm in the middle of something...and then rolling black out
> LOL geejay, I'm soooo sorry. 
<playful> hey Sandra, sorry, was setting todd straight lol
> It's gorgeous here. About 60. 
> playful, well worth the wait. LOL 
<geejay> where is that?
> Just west of Chicago. 
<playful> susanna, if i drop out, I have storms coming in before too long.
<geejay> aaahhh....must be a great time f year there
<playful> not sure when they will arrive here, but looks bad
<geejay> storms?!?
> I think attendance will improve over the next few weeks. We'll have the chats listed at All Of 'Em and the times will appear in the daily update. 
<playful> yep storms
<geejay> yikes...trade you for a rolling blackout and 90 degree heat
<susanna> okay playful
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> Hi, Mistress. :-) 
<OzMistress> Hi :)
<susanna> Evening OzMistress
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<playful> naw, don't think you would geejay, lightening came extrememly close to my house last night. pretty scary
<playful> hi OzMistress
> Sus is our guest tonight. (I gotta remember to start announcing that) 
<OzMistress> hi playful
<susanna> all you people start thinking of your questions...we will have to have 10 from each of you LOL
<geejay> uhm...your're probably right, playful...i'm a big chicken when it comes to lightning
> LOL
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> Hi, CompDoc. 
<Compdoctor> Sandra 
<OzMistress> do have an official topic? or is it just general questions?
<susanna> hi Compdoctor
<playful> lol susanna, i'm being quiet
<playful> hey Compy hon
<Compdoctor> hey sue
> Welcome to our get together. 
<Compdoctor> playful dear
<Compdoctor> am I the only man
<susanna> so far but soon others will come
<Compdoctor> am I in trouble?
> Mistress, Sus is going to be talking about marketing couples sites. 
<susanna> there are WOMENZ here!
<playful> lol only if you want to be Comp
> Comp, you're complaining? 
* Compdoctor likes female trouble
<Compdoctor> nope
> :-) 
<Compdoctor> came to learn
<susanna> my icq is bad... not getting messages through
<Compdoctor> I got it
> Got lots to learn ourselves. It's great being in on the birth of an industry. 
<susanna> your C
<susanna> LOL
<susanna> I am ag G
<Compdoctor> I agree Sandra
<susanna> at
> Sus, huh? LOL 
<susanna> on icq
<Compdoctor> you were saying Sue?
<playful> lol 
<susanna> I am at G and cant get my messages about this chat through
> Can't use my ICQ - I'm on my DSL, the dial-up was messing up. 
<susanna> Gigig are you here?
<susanna> what happens sandra?
<playful> gigi is here susanna
<susanna> gigig LOL
<gigi> yup...just working at the same time...lol
<Compdoctor> by the way before others show up
<susanna> Heh you how are you?
<Compdoctor> my content site is now fixed
<gigi> do I have a new nic now??  lol
<susanna> I want your content comp... I am going to get the couples stuff
<susanna> the artsy stuff
<gigi> gigig....sort of 'rolls off the tongue' no?  lol
<susanna> what do you call it?
<Compdoctor> just shot two more sets last weekend
<susanna> better then jiggly
<Compdoctor> erotica
<OzMistress> what's your site doc?
> These men on the net have to stop sending pics and then saying .... not for publication. *sigh* 
<susanna> no?really?
<susanna> LOL
<playful> lol Sandra
> brb then we'll get started. 
<Compdoctor> k
<OzMistress> Hehe, they just gotta show *someone* Sandra..
<susanna> ohhh sure Sandra your getting all the single guys I see!!!!! <----is jealous!
<susanna> I am at the S but that is people showing ONLINE
> :-) 
<susanna> geez
> Shall we begin? 
<playful> lol susanna, got your message. hehehe
<susanna> sorry playful could have left you off 
<Compdoctor> Sandra you going out on me?
<playful> hehehe, no problem, just teasing you
<susanna> I am ready
> Going out on you? 
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<playful> hi Lisa
> Hi, Lisa :-) 
<Lisa> hey playful
<Lisa> hi sandra
<susanna> evening lisa
<Compdoctor> Lisa dear
> Tonight we are going to have our first section devoted to Susanna
<Lisa> hi CD
<susanna> did everyone pay at the door?
> Sus, wanna tell us what got you into the biz and why you wanted to concentrate on sites for couples?
<Compdoctor> playful got mine
<susanna> I could use the moolah... LOL
> LOL Sus. 
<playful> lol Comp
<gigi> looking for models....this was a site I ran across that I thought was an interesting concept...and one that I think would work for male amateur models
<gigi> http://www.xtschat.com/newmodels.htm
<susanna> sure can do
> We won't moderate, there's enough here that we should be able to listen to Sus. 
<susanna> My inspiration was a man I was seeing who ended up living in Holland.  We had a long distance relationshop happening for a while and we did what all long distance loves do...we looked for ways to be together online.  Often we send each other pictures or other erotica that was top notch... but it got so that no one did it quite right... we had our own ideas of what was the perfect site for men and women both to enjoy.  
<gigi> sorry....should have waited with that...lol
<susanna> This was back in the days of Purve just opening.  There wasnt much for women in the way of a true porn site...there was many personal pages with some erotic art, and stories and there was always Suze Randall content...but I just hate that point and shoot pictures...Suze doesnt do penetration.  So although her pictures are of high quality, beautiful backgrounds and such there is not much reality to them... no real people, no real sex.  
> np gigi
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<susanna> A few years later I decided I wanted to do something on the net that was SEX POSITIVE meaning a place that can be shared with your lover.  So many older couples are sort of stuck in a rut sexually, or they find their excitement while their partner is off sleeping!  I wanted to have a place that they could go to together. 
> Hi, SusieS
<SusieS> evening
<susanna> Had that answer already LOL
<gigi> heyyy susies *smoootch*
<susanna> evening Susie
<SusieS> huggles gigi
<SusieS> evening sus and sandra
> Sus, do you get positive feedback from your members about the site? What do they say? 
<susanna> I have always been a bit unsure why there has to be male porn and lady porn.  Why, when its men and women, involved isnt there couples porn....
<SusieS> thanks for the reminder LOL see I saw it today but got wrapped up in work
> Great way of finding a need and filling it. 
<susanna> I dont get alot of feedback to tell you the truth... I have talked to some people when they have trouble...sort of seizing the opportunity
<susanna> they give good suggestions
<susanna> and they say they like the layout
> Such as?
<susanna> more of this or less of that
<susanna> sort of "you cannot please everyone"
> so true
<susanna> They seem to like the foreplay games!
<susanna> Some people have said that I should break up the galleries a bit
> Do they like the classy high-end couples or the "neighbors" type?
<SusieS> you ladies won't mind if I remove my bra and comfy for the chat now do ya LOL
<susanna> I have all couples sex scenes together to include anal, threesome straight etc
<susanna> LOL  Susie
> Susie, ask CompDoc. LOL 
<susanna> they seem to like both Sandra
<SusieS> well i know he wo't mind LOL
<playful> lol SusieS, i already beat you to it. lol
<Compdoctor> ask me waht
> Sus, great. That helps with knowing what to build. 
<Compdoctor> oh sure go for it
<susanna> I think that they appreciate both kinds... classy shots and couples nextdoor
> You've touched on it, but is there any other ways you see "couples" as a different or sub-niche of 4women?
* SusieS flinging the damn sling shot LOL
<susanna> Well my niche is different because my site never says "men not welcome"  or "a site for women only".  I never saw the need for that personally.  I do have many males signing up for my site and I can only assume that there are men and women members and that they are using my site for its purpose... to show their partners...to sit with their partners going through the site together...
<susanna> I have always thought of the 4 womens sites as either for single women or for women who want to wank while hubby is away or sleeping... there are exceptions of course and these are sites that are starting to market to the woman instead of to the pussy... (note its my opinion that all male porn markets to the balls and cock!!)
<susanna> I make sites with pictures that men should be able to enjoy equally as much as women.  There is only a slight difference in my pictures and other erotica... I have male heads... so there is all the same content from anal sex to threesome to lesbian to straight up lovemaking scenes... BUT the difference is the focus of the shoot... how many pictures  have you seen where the focus is on a woman with a cock in her mouth or a woman with  that stary eyed look
<susanna> Here is a link you can check while I talk... 
<susanna> I make sites with pictures that men should be able to enjoy equally as much as women.  There is only a slight difference in my pictures and other erotica... I have male heads... so there is all the same content from anal sex to threesome to lesbian to straight up lovemaking scenes... BUT the difference is the focus of the shoot... how many pictures  have you seen where the focus is on a woman with a cock in her mouth or a woman with  that stary eyed look
<susanna> Here is a link you can check while I talk... 
<susanna> http://www.couples-sex.com/chat/
<susanna> I have put up pics there
> hold on... reading :-) 
<Compdoctor> thats what I try not to shoot
<susanna> what is that Compdoctor
<Compdoctor> why?
> That's been an issue discussed at WEN... shooting with the female in mind. 
<playful> ooh, i like the one under the waterfall
<susanna> no what do you try not to shoot?
<Compdoctor> because I believe if yu are doing couples shoots
<Compdoctor> the couplse should be looking like they are enjopying theirself
<Compdoctor> accutally
<susanna> yes not porn star vs porn star... lets see who can look prettier
<Compdoctor> I tell them to go for it
<Compdoctor> and i shoot around them
<susanna> right!
> Exactly. 
<Compdoctor> maybe telling then to stop etc
> At least that's what I personally want. 
<susanna> Comp I just posted on TNB you shoudl be able to take single male, female and couples pics with a coupld
<susanna> e
<Compdoctor> I agree
<susanna> So my pictures are examples of my focus in picture erotic
<susanna> a
<Compdoctor> at lest I do
<susanna> Something that both a man and a woman can look at and they see beauty and they are aroused
> I think we may have better luck getting the content we want out of the individual photographer... not brokers or ones who shoot for big sites. 
<susanna> they are getting better Sandra
<susanna> So this is just the pictures... there is much more to the site, from erotic stories written and audio, to videos and my columns... I do not keep columns that are "4women" off my site, but I am working towards columns for couples, women, and men... 
> I know. I just got some exclusive content that I love.
<susanna> exclusive heh!!!!!  dang... 
> Have you thought of getting a professional in to do the columns? 
> :-) 
<Compdoctor> I do exclusive shoots:)
<OzMistress>  Goddamnit the pics are working...and my hubby is away, lol..
<Compdoctor> opps
<Compdoctor> sorry
<susanna> Yes I have a few professionals now but I will aim to it
> Comp, please post the details at WEN
<susanna> LOL  OzMistress
<Compdoctor> give me a url and I will
<susanna> Then there is my newest focus... foreplay games.. at present I am designing most of the games... there is truth or dare and roleplay but I have also purchased some games that will be modified for couples sex...again adult oriented, fun stuff... all of this meant to open up the playful side of couples and quite possibly bring the couple closer together! 
> LOL Mistress.
<Compdoctor> great idea
> <-- Loves roleplaying. 
> :-) 
<susanna> yeah Tibo and I were talking around Couples Sex...what it needed etc... it was mostly his idea and I just ran with it!
<SusieS> can' get into roleplaying
<Compdoctor> remember spin the bottle
> Sus, you're giving me some great ideas for sites that can be built. 
<susanna> I have roleplay and truth or dare Comp
> Never played it. <deprived childhood) 
<Compdoctor> I remember that
<OzMistress> lol sandra
<Compdoctor> so the url of WEN please
> http://www.womenseroticanetwork.com
> I gotta find a shorter URL. LOL 
<SusieS> have ya tried wen.com lol
> taken :-( 
> I tried that first thing. 
<OzMistress> I think all the three letter names are taken
<SusieS> lol
<OzMistress> womenserotica.net ?
<Compdoctor> is there a link to add content sites?
> maybe wen-x
<susanna>  womenswebnet?
> CompDoc, look in the discussion board area and you'll find a place to post about content. 
<Compdoctor> ok
<susanna> sellwomen.com
<OzMistress> CompDoc, you got a site?
<susanna> opps selltowomen.com
<SusieS> brb
<susanna> anyone have questions so far?
> The go into the general area, introduce yourself, and mention your content is listed in the other section. 
> Sus, got one more for ya. 
<OzMistress> nope, keep going Sus :)
> Can you give us some tips on marketing to your site from not only the 4women
> but also 4men sites?
> you > your
<susanna> yup
> or couples sites. :-) 
<susanna> If you are presently marketing to men... DON'T assume that there are no women on your sites!!!!!!!!!!!!  
> Lady Lynx will be adding a "for couples" category
> Exactly!
<susanna>  Infact I would assume they are there...every woman here will tell you that you surf for sexy pictures you end up on for men sites... so put up a banner
> How many of us surfed for porn before we got into the biz?
> lol
<susanna>  start with a site like couples sex that sells to men quite readily and when you are braver say something like "are you a lady looking for hot porn ya da ya da and put up a banner for one of the 4 womens sites"
<OzMistress> lol
<susanna> is braver a word?
<susanna> ;o)
> yes
<susanna> You should be able to atleast put a 4 women site in your money bars!!! 
<OzMistress> I have a "women's erotica" link in all my money bars
<susanna> Another idea to sell Couples Sex on a 4 men site use unusual text links......
<susanna> "Looking for a site to show your lady?" 
> I had suggested that everyone, even if they aren't marketing sites to women, create a full-page ad for sites of interest to women and link to it from all their sites. 
<susanna> "Want a site that will truely get her horny?" 
<susanna> yes Sandra link between sites
> Good suggestions. 
<susanna> "Looking for a horny bitch to fuck tonight? Who is sleeping in the other room? Want to make her horny? Go to Couples Sex, buy a membership and yell "Honey look what I just found"   
<Compdoctor> Just posted
> LOLOL
> CompDoc, great. 
<susanna> If you are marketing to women... 
<susanna> "Are you a lady looking for porn?" 
<susanna> simple as that
<Compdoctor> I like that better
> So you can really do it from both ends.... so to speak. Market to the guy and to the gal. 
<susanna> looking for porn, looking for sex, looking for romance, looking for erotica
<susanna> looking for fun
<susanna> looking to get horny for your man
<susanna> "Want a site filled with foreplay?" 
<Compdoctor> I am lookjng inot a classified site
<susanna> "Want to buy one membership for two of you?"
<Compdoctor> for couples
<susanna> "Two for one at Couples Sex...both of you horny every night for 24.95 a month"
<OzMistress> lol, love the horny bitch one :)
<susanna> women love to have their purse talked too
> How about: Want him to do something special but don't know how to tell him.... Show Him"
<susanna> "Need some inspiration in your sex life?"  
<susanna> yup good one Sandra
<susanna> questions... make them think of the answer
<susanna> make them say "yeah I woudl like that"
<susanna> "Looking for some horny lovemaking? Want a site online that has romance, passion, lust and hardcore all mixed into one?"
<OzMistress> make them answer "yes" to a question and you're half way there, lol
> That's what Snoops always taught... ask them a question they have to say yes to.... what Mistress said. LOL 
<susanna> make them answer yes to the same question a few times and you have made a sale... money bar to full page add to tour
<susanna> yes, click, yes, click, yes
<susanna> how about this....."Get horny at this site before fucking your husband?" 
<susanna> Use your imagination of course!
> Looks like content places are going to be hit for couples content... ya ready, CompDoc? 
<Compdoctor> yep ready, I think
<susanna> questions?
<Compdoctor> I'm still tweaking the site tho
<Compdoctor> Yes i have one
<susanna> shoot
<Compdoctor> most of my couples are young couples
> Sus, and also, there's that angle of being able to share something. No reason you can't send your partner a URL and say "This is what I want to do to you tonight"
<Compdoctor> should I shoot mature couples also
<susanna> by the way I try to have a little of everything on csex... like toons, games, artwork etc
<Compdoctor> and would it sell
> YES!!!!!!
<playful> it would definitely sell Comp. 
<Compdoctor> yes?
<OzMistress> hey, should add a send this url to your partner email link on every page :)
<Compdoctor> mmmm
<susanna> right Sandra... Sex and Relationship Positive
> Compdoc, a lot of us don't really want to look at kids our kids age doing it. 
<susanna> Yes compdoctor
<susanna> I buy mature guys and gals
<playful> exactly Sandra lol
<susanna> there isnt much content
> :-) 
<Compdoctor> so me and a 20 year old won't work huh?
<Compdoctor> opps
> We are hungry for content. 
<Compdoctor> I mean
> LOL 
<playful> lol compy
<susanna> sure it would comp... on csex... 
> Just get a few cowboys, please. *grin* 
<Compdoctor> well i have two couple sets up
<susanna> its all fantasy stuff
<Compdoctor> shot two more this weekend
<susanna> I even have some vampire sets
<Compdoctor> and got three more planed for next week
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<susanna> some of a gal in her wedding dress getting cake all over 
> Hi, toson welcome!
<Compdoctor> I got vampire
<Compdoctor> Toson
<toson> hello
<susanna> Hello Toson
<SusieS> hi toson
> If you're near water, CompDoc, I'd love pics to illustrate a story I wrote about making love in the sea. 
<Compdoctor> mmmm
<susanna> for sure Sandra
<playful> ooh, sounds sexy Sandra
<Compdoctor> was talking to a model jsut a moment ago
<susanna> I can find at the pool sex pics
> :-) 
<Compdoctor> about jsut that
<susanna> none on the beach
<toson> what type of water? I liveiles fron the ocean
> I'd like to see more illustrated stories. 
<Compdoctor> its a river really
<toson> 10 miles
> It's called Paradise by the Sea at http://www.storylust.com
<susanna> any kind of outdoors is cool
> Any of the stories would be good. 
<Compdoctor> going to do a grave yard set with my vampire gal
<SusieS> oh man lol
> check out one site I love... can't sell, but it's a top rated site by AC  http://www.motor-sex.com
<susanna> wow comp
<susanna> I am also working on http://www.dripping-wet-sex.com  my water sex site
> There is such a wealth of ideas that we have. 
<Compdoctor> motorcycle sex
<Compdoctor> interestin idea
> Sus, I didn't ask you about this, but what's it like having a paysite? 
<susanna> cool site sandra
> Thanks. I love it. 
<susanna> I love it... I love buying premium content... I love showing the good stuff and not dummying it down
<Compdoctor> I have a couple who rides harleys
<susanna> I love having members
<susanna> its like having friends LOL
> Comp, you have a set of them? 
<susanna> I love the challenge of getting traffic
<Compdoctor> not yet
> I'll buy it when you do. :-) 
<Compdoctor> its in the works tho
<Compdoctor> k
<Compdoctor> do yu want exclusive?
* playful can see the wheels just turning in Compy's head
<Compdoctor> I'll do it this week
> Okay, I'm at the end of the prepared questions, anyone have anything they'd like to ask Sus? 
<susanna> I am trying to work up Wet Sex to be my next full pay site with partner program
> CompDoc, email me, ok? 
<Compdoctor> k
> lady@ladylynx.com
<susanna> I also have some 4 women sites happening soon
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> Good for you, Sus. 
> Hi, Evefg
<susanna> as well as http://www.lady-porn.com my email program for women
<toson> have you found that sites for women are doing better than they were?
<Evefg> hey everyone
> toson, they sure are for me. 
<toson> how are you marketing?
> About a third of my income is my 4women stuff. 
<susanna> they are Toson and I think because of the changes the sites are making... marketing to the woman...complete woman instead of her sex parts LOL
> toson, you might want to go to http://www.ladylynx.com and go through the gallery category and see what appeals to you. 
<toson> makes sense. I have 2 sites that I want to develop for both women and gay men, but unsure as to how I am going to work them
<Compdoctor> on its way
<toson> thank you
> ty cd
<susanna> for women and gay is a bit harder Toson... I would just mirror the content
> toson, one bit of advice... please don't mix gay and 4women
<susanna> ie make two sites same content
<susanna> same domain even
> right. 
<toson> yes.. I know that part. planned on mirror of sites... thanks
> And, as cj says, no "poo" holes on the 4women sites. 
> Good. 
<toson> ;)
> I can't say it as well as she does. But then no one is like cj. LOL 
<toson> cowboygigolos.com is the domain that they are going on..;)
<susanna> yup its a matter of marketing to yourself... also a cj quote
> toson, kewl. 
<Compdoctor> poo holes:)
<susanna> I bought some cowboy at ounique... you have that too Sandra?
> In writing, we're told to write what we know.... in smut it should be the same thing. Sell what you know. 
<Compdoctor> opps pizza is here
<Compdoctor> thanks for the invite guys
<Compdoctor> I learned something
<SusieS> nite cd
> Sus, no, I'm holding out for something unique. I've seen him. Great butt. :-) 
<susanna> bye Compdoctor
<Compdoctor> one more question
<playful> nite Compy
> CompDoc, great. 
> sure
<Compdoctor> should I keep the content amateur
<Compdoctor> meaning
<Compdoctor> not glamor
> I would think so. What do you gals think? 
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<susanna> I am torn because I want my place to look so nice... ;o)  but there is a place more and more for amateur
<OzMistress> Can't you do both?
<Compdoctor> I can
> Good. 
<Compdoctor> but don't really like glamor
<Compdoctor> its too fake
> Why limit ourselves, now that I think of it. 
<susanna> that would be cool... a set of an ordinary couple dressing for an evening...
<susanna> after a fuck
<susanna> or 
> Glamour hardcore is soooooo tough to find. 
<susanna> ;o)
<Compdoctor> really
<susanna> they come home for it
<OzMistress> ie, a glamour shoot and an "amateur" one of each session maybe..
<OzMistress> or is that too much work?
<Compdoctor> interesting thought
<Compdoctor> nope I work hard I do
<susanna> he does
> And PLEASE.... if there is a "money shot" at the end, add some more "sensual" final shots for those of us who don't want to use the cumshots. 
<OzMistress> like the male, female, couple, softcore, hardcore mix from one shoot...add glam and am
<susanna> let him cum on her belly...that is sensual
<OzMistress> all the bases covered then :)
<Compdoctor> oh i stress that
<OzMistress> yes sus :)
<Compdoctor> or butt
<OzMistress> yep
> Well, I'm not turned on by it. LOL 
<susanna> or in the condom...did you see the pic I choose on my picture links that was a fellow playing with the condom?  that is real life
<Compdoctor> darn
> bleck. :-) 
<Compdoctor> wyvern was jsut asking about that
<OzMistress> lol
<playful> lol
> Prefers fantasy. LOL 
<SusieS> sandra I am with you on that LOL
<susanna> wyvern?
<Compdoctor> she stted she has flavors also
<Compdoctor> yes my vamp model
<OzMistress> hhehe personal taste...some like it some don't..
> Just shows you.... there's something for everyone. 
<susanna> are you talking about cum on bellies or condoms
<Compdoctor> both
<susanna> the ladies though... what do they say they dislike?
<Compdoctor> my ladies are very open
<Compdoctor> modles
> I can only go by what I like. To me the cumshot is shot changing the woman. 
<Compdoctor> models
<Compdoctor> but do women really want to see the cum shot
<Compdoctor> or rather
> I don't. 
<susanna> Well I think in real life there are alot of people who do not cum inside the vagina...for what ever reason.. 
<Compdoctor> a man helping her off with the garter
<susanna> not on faces 
<OzMistress> I don't like cumshots per se..but I like the idea of couples being intimate enough to do something different
<susanna> yes comp
<OzMistress> no, not on faces...
> I've got a great series where the couple cum together and the expression on their faces is fantastic. 
<Compdoctor> lots of my shots are like that
<Evefg> i wouldn't mind seeing a cum shot
<Evefg> :D
<Compdoctor> anyway pizza is getting cold
<susanna> but for me Sandra...the guys would NOT see that LOL
<Compdoctor> thanks guys
<Compdoctor> invite me again please
<OzMistress> lol
> Thank, CD. 
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<susanna> Evefg are you male or female?
> You're always welc.....
<Evefg> lol
<playful> really susanna? hmm, my members love it. think the expression is romantic
<Evefg> i'm a female
<geejay> she's my cousin
<susanna> cum on face playful?
> playful, really? 
<Evefg> no cum shots on the face
<Evefg> but i like to see it on the ass
<gigi> sorry....was working...lol
<Evefg> lol
<susanna> okay well its not meant rude to ask ;o)  just wanted to know if you were female liking the cum shots ;o)
> <-- too old fashioned. :-) 
<playful> no, where Sandra states that where the couple cum together and the expression on their faces. lol
<gigi> susanna and I have had 'cumshot' discussions before...lol
<Evefg> lol
<playful> sorry, maybe reading it wrong
<susanna> no you didnt
<susanna> I like those... so you think men get it playful?
<geejay> i think it's all in the context
> geejay, true. 
<gigi> the majority of women say cumshots are a no-go for their libito sp?
<geejay> if the couple looks like they are into it...i'll go along with it
> And, there may be women who do like it. 
<susanna> I think pictures are just to tickle you in the right place...we have talked about that place being tickled by a guy with only his shirt off
> geejay, exactly. She has to look like she wants it and is not just going along. 
<Evefg> well the most offensive to me is to see them drinking milky fluid from a glass
<OzMistress> erk
<Evefg> come on~! that's nasty
<OzMistress> not milk, I presume? lol
<playful> my members get it susanna, might be because they are amateur lovers i don't know. lol
<susanna> me too ABSOLUTELY.... makes me gag to see them drink it
<susanna> its not intimate at all
> yuck on the glass of whatever
<geejay> generally the way they are done...they are nasty...but i have a terrific imagination and I can imagine a scenario where it would be cool
<susanna> I like it too playful... hmmm
<gigi> that's called bukake
<gigi> lol
> yack
> or gack
> LOL 
<susanna> even the name is gross
<SusieS> that is fast forward time LOL
<Evefg> do women like protruding objects out of the holes?
<geejay> ok...we're totally cold now
<OzMistress> sounds like someone choking, lol
* gigi tries to look 'smart' even though she just learned that term a couple of months ago...hehehe
> Well, it seems the concensus is that it's ok if she looks like she likes it. 
<susanna> when you say bukake fast ist like gagging
<Evefg> suck as champagne bottles?
<Evefg> such*
<susanna> exactly...just like being tied up is cool if she likes it!!
<gigi> Evefg....I think that is a personal thing....but I do believe more women like that that the 'bukake' thing...lolol
> Seeing a big dildo or carrot in another woman does nothing for me. 
<playful> me either Sandra
> But....if he's putting it in and licking at the same time... now that's great. 
<playful> lol
* gigi blushes as she feels there are possibilities there...hehehe
<OzMistress> what, the carrot?
<OzMistress> lol
<susanna> right its playful!!
> Sure. 
> Why not a carrot. LOL 
<OzMistress> lol, I meant licking the carrot :P
> It's knowing from the pics that the couple are into it. 
> Umm, had something else in mind. LOL 
<OzMistress> hehe
<susanna> brb phone
> <-- Imprints her sites with her own fantasies. 
> ok. Sus. 
<Evefg> lol
> but, once again, we're up against the wall of getting the content. 
<SusieS> thats where I have such a hard time
> There's so many things I want to do... just not the pics to go with them. 
<Evefg> that "can i have my 5 dollars for my crack now" look is very tired.
> And I'm soooo tired of wadding through gay content. 
<OzMistress> yes
<Evefg> i want to see passion like on the friggen romance covers LOL
> Eve, exactly!
<geejay> actually i've been wading through hardcore material with some limited success
> Eve, that's what I've often said would sell. Women buy a gazillion dollars worth of Romance Novels. 
> geejay, I loved the pillow fight site. 
<playful> exactly Evefg, but i want people that look like a housewife spent all day cooking and hubby comes home from the office to give her a romantic kiss on the back of the neck as she is stirring sauce. or something to that effect. lol
<geejay> thanks...that was one of the successes
<susanna> check this out  http://www.couples-sex.com/chat/pic.jpg
<Evefg> yeah that rocks
<susanna> sensual bondage
> playful, yes!
> geejay, it'll be in my newsletter going out tomorrow. 
> Sus, are you back? 
<OzMistress> nice...very intimate
<susanna> yup
<geejay> it's like the male fantasy is that the woman is ever ready...and the female fantasy is that the man will take his time and seduce and please the woman
> geejay, exactly. 
<geejay> hey thanks, Sandra! :) 
> Sus, tell us about Lady Porn, ok? 
> :-) 
<susanna> Lady Porn is an emailer for women... but the twist is that I am making it sort of grassroots
<susanna> I am having anyone who markets to women involved making content
<susanna> in exchange for content for the mailers they get to use the traffic
<susanna> so basically they put together something imaginative to entertain straight, bisexual or lesbian woman
> Kewl. 
<susanna> on their own sites with their own sponsor codes or their own links to other things they are doing
> btw, that pic you just posted is great. 
<Evefg> that pic rocked girlfriend!
<susanna> yeah going to make a site for lady lynx with that series 
<Evefg> :)
> Do you have a webpage that describes the program? 
<geejay> yes...very nice... a real sense of intimacy and pleasure....sigh
> Kewl... looking forward to it. 
<susanna> ummm I think I do hold on
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> Hi, Rob :-) 
> Sure, Sus. 
<RobP> Evening Sandra and all
<susanna> http://www.lady-porn.com/banners.html
> Great, Sus. Will get it listed on WEN. 
<susanna> evening RobP
<playful> hi RobP
> Sus, okay, now tell us a bit about your staffing program that you and playful have. 
> (might be needing your services soon)
<susanna> playful can you chat on that I have a crying daughter here ;o)
<playful> sure can
> ty playful
<playful> Well Susanna and I wanted to do something just a bit different than some of the other adult staffing sites we had found
<playful> most cater mainly to models, phone sex, etc. not particularly to webmasters
<playful> we noticed that a bunch of webmasters were looking on the boards for jobs and us knowing the crunch after Online Media let people go
<playful> knew that this would be a good opportunity for us to help others, what with our contacts and everyday searching.
<playful> What we want to be able to do, is take a webmasters skills and match them specifically with what the employer is looking for.
<playful> sorry i'm thinking and typing at the same time. lol
> No problem. 
> What could a webmaster come to you and ask for? 
<playful> We keep in touch, not only with the webmaster, but the employer to see how the relationship is going.
<playful> Well, basically anything they are skilled to do
<playful> such as, graphics, programming, search engines
> Is it always an "employee/employer" relationship or do you have sub-contractors or independent workers?
<playful> both
> How about "girl/guy Fridays?"
<playful> that too
> Great. 
> I'll be in touch. :-) 
<playful> anything that will at least give a webmaster a chance at a job
> Even if it's part time work? 
<playful> plus, with the keeping in touch, we can know whether or not the worker has been contacted.
<playful> yes even if it's part time
> Good way to manage it. 
> Great. 
> I think I'm like most of us and have more ideas than time. 
> Thanks, playful.. and can ya post the URL. 
> ?
<SusieS> LOL Sandra I hear that 
<playful> http://www.adult-temp-staff.com
> LOL
> thanks. 
<RobP> Playful are you screening both the applicants and employeers to see their viability?
<playful> Anyone have questions about it that i need to go more into detail?
> Now, how about we open the chat to anyone who has a question about anything? 
<playful> Yes RobP, we definitely plan to do that and each has a file that we keep
<playful> ie: complaints, etc.
<RobP> ;o) We all know that one of the downfalls on the adult net is failure of payment ;o)
<playful> exactly. 
<playful> that is what we don't want to happen to these workers
> Yep, happens on both ends. 
<playful> right Sandra
<playful> that's why we keep in touch with both, so we can keep a file on how the working relationship is going
> do you list any photographers?
<playful> to protect both of them
<playful> Yes, i think we should
<susanna> back for a bit
<playful> right susanna? we should list photographers too?
> Those who will do exclusive, or limited exclusives. 
<RobP> ;o)
<playful> yes i think we should. 
> LOL 
<susanna> yes I think we would
> You've got Rob and CompDoc already
<playful> hehehe
<susanna> I only send away anyone that is looking to model
<susanna> a cam girl/guy
<susanna> and there are many places to direct them too
<playful> right
> Do you think we'll ever see "straight" guys in live feeds?
<susanna> I wish
> a bit of a tangential question. 
<playful> gawd i hope so. lol
<geejay> yes please
* RobP will brb
<susanna> I keep trying to find them
> Rob's going to get on his cam. LOL 
<playful> hehehe
<susanna> there are acouple but they have pay sites already
<SusieS> ok have to go check a site out for hubby before I unwind with a movie 
> Can't you work with them to tap into their feed?
<SusieS> thanks for the great chat agian See you all next week
> Night, Susie. Thanks for being here. :-) 
<playful> nite Susie
<OzMistress> bye :)
<susanna> bye Susie
> This time is working out well... just not sure where our mascot is. 
<SusieS> poof
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<susanna> I have tried that Sandra
<susanna> most dont get the barter thing
> LOL Watch, Tibo will show up tomorrow night.
<playful> lol
> *sigh* 
> Too bad they don't understand what they have to gain. 
<playful> lol, Tibo is online too. 
> There is one black guy on Lady Lynx that might be interested. 
<susanna> he is online he must have got my message so he is in the middle of something
> Tell him to get his butt in here. 
> Hmmmm, what could be more important that a channel filled with women. 
> lol
<susanna> LOL
> Right, Rob? 
<susanna> anyone have other questions?
<playful> lol Sandra, i just did
> playful, kewl. 
> We can attack him with the blue boas. 
> poor man. LOL 
<susanna> I have another site actually http://buy-viacreme.com  I am trying to set up a partner program for this
<playful> One thing we should stress Susanna, there is no cost to the worker
<playful> just to the potential employer
> Good point, playful. 
<susanna> its a product for womens orgasm enhancement...and woooooooaaaaah does it ever work
<susanna> sorry butting into playful there LOL  
> Sus, oops,you're just involved in too much for me to keep track of. 
<geejay> really? hmmmm....
<susanna> you gals wanna try it
<OzMistress> lol, was looking at that yesterday, sus
<playful> lol Susanna, just an afterthought
> Has anyone ever tried a pheromone product? 
<Evefg> lol
<Evefg> hell yeah..i want anything that enhances the feeling! lol
<playful> no Sandra, just smelling hubby does it for me. lol
<OzMistress> hehe, should have that quote on your site... " woooooooaaaaah does it ever work!"
> I couldn't stand it if it got any more intense. 
> LOL
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<TiBo> Ta da!
<susanna> it really does increase orgasm intensity
<playful> about time Tibo lol
> there he is!!!!!!!!
<susanna> aaaaaahhhh Tibo
<susanna> lots of women are at the other end of the scale Sandra
> Sus, it makes the area more sensitive?
<geejay> yeah Tibo's here!
* OzMistress wonders if she can get it in Australia...
> I know. I'm just one of those super sentitives. 
<Evefg> lol
<playful> ah hell, i couldn't stand it if my area was more sensitive. lol
* Sandra` wraps a blue boa around TiBo's neck and kisses him on the cheek.
<Evefg> i'm very sensitive, but i'm willing to blast into other dimensions with my orgasm
<Evefg> sign me up
<OzMistress> lol
<Evefg> :)
<susanna> it brings blood to the area... it makes the clitoris enlarged and the ending orgasm is farther reaching then just the clitoris
> kewl. 
<susanna> it doesnt make it more sensitive what you feel is a sort of cold/tingly feeling
> Is it hyperallergenic (sp?)
* TiBo fondles his boah and prepares to talk about vaginal sensitivity.
<geejay> you are quite a salesman, susanna
> LOL Tibo. 
<OzMistress> I love the heavy duty contraction-type ones :)
<susanna> I can sell to you in Australia but you cannot sell from Australia
<OzMistress> Lol! tibo
<Evefg> lol
<geejay> damn, tibo...you funny!
<susanna> there was something about that just today... that your government has to allow business there
<playful> lol Tibo you are too much
<OzMistress> yeah, it sucks..
<susanna> thanks Geejay
<OzMistress> we aren't allowed to host adult sites here...
<OzMistress> so we gotta go offshore
<OzMistress> can't do any friggin' thing
<susanna> Tibo has to come over there and fondle Susanna
<OzMistress> hehe, look out Tibo!
<playful> run Tibo run
<susanna> gots my viacreme... (its like viagra when your ready your ready LOL)
> Now why would he want to run away? :-) 
<playful> lol susanna is a wildcat. lol
* OzMistress plays the "Jaws" theme as Tibo scrabbles wildly in an effort to escape.
<playful> might be dangerous after her cream. lol
> lol
<susanna> noooooooooooooooo  Susanna is a pussy cat
<OzMistress> lol!!
* TiBo having just woken up tries to run but falls flat on his face and is easy prey (or is that just an act?)
<susanna> LOL  OzMistress
> Susanna, can we get a carton and pass out samples to webmistress so we have some testimonials?
<susanna> ohhhh Tibo butt in the air...susanna behind him?
> LOL Tibo. 
<OzMistress> Lol, Tibo..is that a rape fantasy I hear tinkling away in your mind?
<playful> lol
<geejay> a carton?
<OzMistress> oh yeah!
<susanna> I am passing out samples
<Evefg> lol
> geejay.... gotta give it a good try. 
<OzMistress> Count me in, lol!
<geejay> extensive testing
<susanna> if you want a sample email me at susanna@couples-sex.com
> Sus, really? I'll email you my address. 
<OzMistress> me too :)
<Evefg> so do you need ...a partner...to test this stuff out?
<susanna> yup sent two out already
<playful> hmm, might have to try it out. lol
<OzMistress> good woman :)
<susanna> they are quite small and have three applications in one package
<TiBo> You send out partners too?  Man, that is service!
> We can have an online testimonial party. LOL 
<OzMistress> hehe, hubby will be back in a couple of weeks....
<playful> woo hoo, hubby look out now!!!
<Evefg> lol
<OzMistress> oh bugger, I think his folks will be visiting while he's here...
<susanna> I dont have a partner and it gets harder and harder to fantasize right...well with this stuff its not so hard to well ... get off LOL
<OzMistress> hmm...might have to book into the motel, lol
> Give them earplugs. 
<playful> hmm, wonder if i can get some good pics out of this hehehe
<OzMistress> Lol!!
<Evefg> lol
<Evefg> does a remote minicam come attached to the vial?
<susanna> I am a porn slinger...seen it all... a little viacreme helps those pics look sexy again LOL
<OzMistress> lol!
<Evefg> should we say CHEESE while we're getting off?
<TiBo> [ and thus started the international black market in orgasmacream ]
<geejay> preach sister!
<OzMistress> no, just "PLEASE!"
> Sus, this is interesting. Many women, like myself, take anti-depressants (anxiety attacks) and the meds can effect the sexual response. It might be a non-medical solution to this condition. 
<playful> hehehe susanna, well hubby and i will sure have great content then. lol
<susanna> right Sandra...plus menopause often slows things down... its all natural products
<susanna> birthcontrol pills also slow things down
> <-- pre-menopause
<susanna> if your testostorone levels are fooled with in any way
<geejay> definitely a market for this product
<susanna> I think so too
<susanna> and no one in adult is marketing it
<OzMistress> Also Tagamet can affect libido
<susanna> Its recently been on Oprah
> I want to try it. I'll know it it makes a difference in me. 
> Mistress, good points. 
<susanna> and Sue Johanson of the Sunday night sex show on Womens Television Network is goign to showcase it...
<susanna> I will be contacting her
<susanna> never know I may end up on the show
> While we can't make any medical recommendations, personal testimonials have to be ok. 
<playful> kewl susanna
<OzMistress> hehe, lots of women searching after Sunday
<susanna> well obviously they will be able to come online and go to my site LOL
<OzMistress> testimonial..."It works! I turned into a raving nympho with just one application!" lol
<susanna> soon it will be on the shopping channel LOL
> I can see there's going to be a lot of searching tonight for domain names to use to sell this. 
<OzMistress> hehe, that's great!
<Evefg> lol
<OzMistress> lol
<susanna> oh yeah the other thing is sometimes it takes three applications... each time working a bit better...and...for me...the third time was best of all (only used it three times LOL)
> Great idea to sell to men for their wives/girlfriends/lovers or all of them. LOL 
<OzMistress> About time it got some airspace after all we hear about Viagra
<OzMistress> lol, bugger it's past Valentines
<susanna> my site has a link re how to join the company
<susanna> you can always hit me up too
<OzMistress> Maybe we should instigate International Orgasm Day...
<susanna> but like I said I am brokering for webmasters for a while
<geejay> you are a master saleswomen...i'm thoroughly impressed
<OzMistress> lol, yep, we're all sucked in, hehe
<geejay> yeah..."O" Day!
<susanna> I want a webmaster program but I cannot find a billing company that will allow product sales for partner program tracking and paying
<OzMistress> lol
<Evefg> you're better than a tv evangelist
> LOL
<Evefg> i'm ready to repent and hurl my twenty bucks at you
<susanna> LOL  Evefg
<Evefg> lol
<OzMistress> lol
> Sus, and what was that about not being able to fill up the chat time with topics? 
<OzMistress> hehe
<susanna> well I am only just starting this online because paypal does not allow Canadians
<susanna> LOL
<TiBo> Could it be used as an ice breaker in pick up bars?  Pardon me ma'am this will only be cold for a second.
> They don't? 
<susanna> they are changing that as we speak...aparently today or tomorrow
<OzMistress> no canadians?
<Evefg> lol
<playful> lol Tibo
> LOL Tibo. :-) 
<susanna> LOL  Tibo
<OzMistress> Aussies can use it now :)
<geejay> ohhhh...you are so bad...
<susanna> you are so good with the visuals
<OzMistress> lol tibo
<susanna> I think there is a cartoon in that
> Tibo, you add soooooo much to this group. *grin* 
<OzMistress> lol, blokes sneaking into the ladies to plant it on the seats/paper
<susanna> we are goign to have to tie him in the corner... or make him dance for us...you dance Tibo?
<susanna> LOL  OzMistress
* playful is waving dollar bills at Tibo
> LOL 
* TiBo feighns shyness at the suggestion of dancing
* playful wonders where Tibo's g-string is
<OzMistress> hehe, shimmy tibo, shimmy!
<susanna> we could get out the oil ladies
<susanna> make him all shinny
<susanna> shiny?
* Sandra` turns the spotlight on Tibo... dance, sugar. :-)
* Sandra` wonders if she should edit this out of the log. LOL
<OzMistress> lol...come to mama...
<playful> lol
<OzMistress> ROTFL!! probably
<susanna> nooooooooooooooooo  it will bring in the single guys 
* TiBo refuses to dance until they play the banana-boat song ;)
<susanna> is Rob here?
<susanna> the love boat song?
<playful> lol
* OzMistress tries desperately to recall the words to the damn banana-boat song...
<susanna> I have not ever heard the banana boat song I am sure
<Evefg> lol
<TiBo> six foot, seven foot, eight foot BUNCH!
<OzMistress> Come Mr Tallyman...tally me banana...
> Day... ohhhhh... something like that? 
<OzMistress> daylight com..and me wan' go home!
<susanna> LOL   okay okay
<OzMistress> hehe
> yeppers. 
<susanna> daylight ..... cum.....and I wanna go home.....typical man
<OzMistress> lol!!
> LOL
<playful> lol susanna
<Evefg> lol
> Atleast he stayed until daylight. 
<TiBo> LOL susanna!  LOL & LOL again.
<Evefg> LOL
<susanna> yeah cause he was tied up
<Evefg> stop it!
<Evefg> you wrong!
<susanna> he has only just been let loose
> LOL Eve, enjoying this? 
<OzMistress> Well, 6 ft, 7ft 8ft bunch..can't complain too much after that..
<Evefg> yeah you guys are a hoot
<Evefg> lol
<playful> lol susanna, he chewed through the ropes actually, no one let him loose. lol
<susanna> LOL OzMistress  I wonder if he is exaggerating...just a bit
> Good. Hope you'll show up each Wed night. And come on over to WEN. 
<OzMistress> hehe
<OzMistress> only one way to find out...
<TiBo> This meeting just reached 9.5 on the "productivity meter"! 
> LOL
<OzMistress> lol!
<susanna> you were sleeping while we worked Tibo...reminds me of my ex
<OzMistress> what's it need to score 10?
* Sandra` falls off her chair laughing.
<susanna> yeah OzMistress we must be able to make 10
<OzMistress> hehe
<susanna> is Rob here?
> The official chat is over. LOL 
<susanna> come on Rob we wont hurt you
<TiBo> I think it reaches 10 when I twirl this feather boa and auction it to the highest bidder.
<susanna> come on and play
> The rest is censored. 
<susanna> new tag lines on the boards
<OzMistress> better get your arse into gear and do your stuff then, tibo, lol!
* playful gets out her monopoly money and ready to bid
<susanna> come to WEN chat and watch the women deteriorate from work to .....
> LOL
<OzMistress> to lechery...?
<susanna> we need help advertising these chats
> I'm going to set up a special section for teasing Tibo. 
> LOL 
<susanna> ladies when you post to the board (oppps and tibo and Rob) think of the WEN Chat Link
<OzMistress> sounds liek a good domain...TeasingTibo.com
> Maybe that's what we need to get more gals in here. A special performance by TiBo.
<susanna> groupseducingtibo.com
> lol
<OzMistress> lol
<susanna> tibo and 5 gals.com
* playful puts the bananna boat song back on......strip Tibo baby strip
<susanna> tibo do you have cowboy boots?
<OzMistress> lol!
> Sus, that's my line. LOL
<susanna> yeah Sandra but you didnt say it so... neener neener
<TiBo> Start the bidding at 1 glass of orange juice, four fingers through the hair and some light groping in a darkened corner.  
> LOL 
> Touche Sus
<playful> lol
<susanna> wooooohhhahaaaaaaaaa
<playful> just light groping Tibo? darn
<susanna> okay from now on I will nudge ya to say it Sandra LOL
* Sandra` checks her bank account balance.
* OzMistress raises hand...."I'll throw in some heavy groping.."
<susanna> tibo...boots?
> LOL Sus
<TiBo> Didn't want to start the bidding too high.
<playful> lol
<TiBo> I'm starting to get the pictured that the boots are pretty important.
<OzMistress> Don't underestimate your self worth, now.
> uh huh
<TiBo> I shall have to aquire some.
<playful> hmm, tight jeans tibo? maybe a cowboy hat?
> And the hat doesn't hurt, either. 
<susanna> well what would I start it at... how about susanna on your lap in the corner staring into your eyes... talking about how I just applied some viacreme?
> Crisp white shirt. 
<Evefg> thank you all for having me here!  i look forward to sitting in again next wednesday. much love !
<playful> hmmmm damn
<OzMistress> lol sus
<susanna> no shirt
> Sold! LOL 
<OzMistress> bye eve :)
> Eve, so good to have you here. :-) 
<geejay> bye
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<playful> nite Eve
<TiBo> Susanna is trying to intimidate the other bidders with a huge jump in the bidding.
> LOL
<susanna> geejay I hope we were not too crazy for her?
<playful> lol
<geejay> not at all...she loved it!
> geejay, please tell her how delightful it was to have her join us. 
<susanna> yup everyone welcome!
<geejay> she just works all day, while i do nothing but fool around with porn
<susanna> just dont sit on Tibos lap... thats my job LMAO
* OzMistress sashays over and practices some belly dancing before Tibo's very eyes.. "I'll up the bid.."
* TiBo is wondering if there's a future as post WEN meeting entertainment.
<susanna> LOL  geejay 
> TiBo, dear, you're there!
* OzMistress says..."You won't regret it..."
<geejay> i hope to bring in a convert...slowly but surely we'll take over the world....muhahha
<susanna> half time Tibo?
<OzMistress> lol
> LOL geejay
<susanna> so everyone get your viacreme before next wednesday
<susanna> now that would be kinky
> LOL 
<susanna> LOL
<OzMistress> lol!
> Email on the way tonight, Sus. 
<playful> lol susanna, email on it's way, definitely. lol
<OzMistress> hehe
<susanna> its funny... lots of women just offer up info on their sex desires good or bad... 
> Forgive me for this... but would that be a "VJ" instead of a "CJ" .... a "vagina jerk?"
> lol
<susanna> one high profile lady told me the other day ... I dont have much desire for sex these days... 
<playful> lol
<OzMistress> lol
<geejay> i was thinking that, sandra....hehe
> Okay, it'll be VJ next week after the meeting. LOL 
<susanna> before
<OzMistress> (keep going sus...)
> before?
<TiBo> Has LadyPorn started going out yet?
<susanna> before so tibo is the entertainment
<susanna> yes lady porn is going out
<susanna> are you on the mailing list? ;o)
<TiBo> Could you send me a back-copy?  
<susanna> sure hon
> Sus, I need to sign up. I also need to get something from LL together for it. 
<susanna> we list reallygoodporn in there Tibo
<susanna> yup anything at all will work... there is sooooooo much talent in us ladies
<TiBo> <--- lapse in brain activity, forgot to sign up.
<susanna> we are up to 250 ladies emails
> How about my daily pics of couples and hunks?
<susanna> yes that is perfect
<OzMistress> wow, that's a great number sus
> Great. 
<susanna> its linked in the mailer
<susanna> soooooo many are not confirmed
> Lady Lynx has 450 members. I'll advertise it to them in my newsletter. 
<susanna> like 100 sit in the unconfirmed pile
<susanna> my sister is working on the site and its coming along
> Sus, what program are you using for the email?
<susanna> she is making one mail a week
<susanna> umm
<susanna> LOL 
> :-) 
<susanna> she is online just  a sec
> sure
> I use YahooGroups for Lady Lynx. 
<susanna> yeah I see that
<susanna> did they not kick you out for adult content?
> I wish I had known how to use the mailing list that's internal to Links2.0
<susanna> obviously not
> Nope, they have an adult section now. 
<susanna> JerryW did my mail collection
<susanna> and it has a mailer but its not html
<susanna> so my sister pat has gotten a free html mailer progra
<susanna> m
<susanna> prospect mailer she says
> I like Yahoo because it's got the confirmation so you know the person really wants the newsletter. 
> thanks, I'll look it up. 
<susanna> I have opt in too
> I've been looking for a program like that. 
<susanna> I think that is important
<susanna> my program was free
<susanna> its php though
> It has to be if you're doing adult. 
<susanna> but I know you know that stuff 
> <-- have a PHP enabled server
<susanna> yeah if your american ;o)
> :-) 
<susanna> its really easy
> Just want to keep my nose clean. 
> Kewl. 
<susanna> I can let you see the back end of lady porn ifyou want to see what it does
<susanna> its not perfect though
> Great. Will write later. 
* TiBo scoops up Play for a few quick times around the dance floor
<geejay> ethics question....I have a recommend to friend deal on Porno4Women and it's collected a bunch of email...can I use that for a one time mailer...or some invitation to optin letter?
<susanna> anyone have questions re marketing to women?'
<playful> woo hooo
<susanna> invitation yes
> geejay, hmmmm, try one mailing and explain where the addy came from. 
<susanna> actually mailing unsolicited stuff is really a grey area
<susanna> just unobtrusive... are you looking for....... come to this site
<geejay> yeah...i've been reluctant to do anything with them because of that
<susanna> at the site explain about the mailer
<susanna> thats a hard one for us to answer because the risk is yours
<playful> well nite all, have updates to do to the paysite. great chat, see you here next Wednesday :o)
<susanna> if someone says your spaming you can lose your isp
<susanna> nite playful
<TiBo> nite Playful
<geejay> yeah...i'm a big scaredy cat when it comes to spam
> Well, gals and Tibo and Rob, it's been two hours... can you believe it? 
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<susanna> I am a gabby one I can believe it LOL
> LOL 
<geejay> when i first started in the biz, i posted to some newsgroups and got busted by my ISP
> It's been a very informative chat. Sus, thanks so much for sharing what you've learned. 
<susanna> really heh
<susanna> your welcome Sandra... anyone with questions let me know...if you want to see inside couples sex I give out free passes... and free viacreme too ;o
<geejay> excellent chat. thanks *applause*
<OzMistress> :)
* Sandra` grins. :-)
<susanna> I also have free galleries LOL forgot to mention that 
> Thank you all for coming. We'll get bigger as we go along. 
<susanna> yup bring a friend
<susanna> like geejay!!
> Sus, please post to the opportunity board on WEN with all your programs. :-) 
<geejay> :)
<susanna> will do sandra
> Well, I need to go rest my eyes. Too much time looking at the screen. 
<OzMistress> I've thoroughly enjoyed myself today :) Best laugh I've had in ages...and I learnt stuff too :)
> Catch you all on WEN and see ya next Wednesday. 
<OzMistress> bye :)
> Mistress, great!
<susanna> bye Sandra`
> Night all. Hugs. 
Session Close: Wed May 30 21:58:31 2001