Session Start: Wed Jun 06 20:06:02 2001 *** Now talking in #WEN *** Topic is 'WEN - alternate room for this week (if anyeone else shows up, lol!)' *** Set by OzMistress on Wed Jun 06 19:47:16 > LOL > Well, atleast we found someplace to meet. hi been a busy night for me kids are just getting into bed > Running from one chat to another. what other chat? how do you do that? > MaxCash... MikeFold on marketing and etc. same channel ? > Two copies of mIRC booted. now my friggen ex is here ohhhhhhhhhhhhh never thought of that back...horse is put away, dog's on the chain and the shop's open for business :) > :-) same program? > Thanks, Mistress > Yes. or do you have the program twice on your disk > Just boot mirc again. no prob :) cool > Nope, same place. LOL OzMistress no kids? > You can even log onto the same server... just not with the same nick. brb delivery I cant be on this one as susanna someone else has that name > That's why I use the ` on my nick. well its probably too late for a gang tonight is cj around? > I don't think I have her correct ICQ and I'm on my DSL so can't send out mail. > I posted on WEN and on Tom's board. you cant send mail on dsl? > Not the way my son has our server configured. ahhh okay > I used to be able to .... then something went foobar. well can you get it? > Yes. you got mine? > that's why I knew about CompDoc and TW > :-) didnt know thought maybe he caught you somehow What was compdoc saying he was busy with Sandra for? ;o) he couldnt talk to me anymore cause he was busy now with Sandra LOL > LOL I was going to tell him oh sure I am offended > He doesn't get busy with me. :-) but then thought even if I tell him he wont get it > LOL > I think he's too ummmmmm well... I agree, don't think he'd get it. I was teasing him > Does he understand teasing? so I think that was suppose to be to get me to stop > LOL > Poor man. > Needs a does of humor. I dunno I said "thanks for trying to set this up for us... i owe you a wet lick on a sensitive place" then he said Oh he was busy now with Sandra LOL > does - dose back again..lol, the kids are at school Sus :) *** OzMistress sets mode: +o Sandra` dang I forgot LOL > ty Mistress. my kids go to sleep yours go to school... no prob :) hehe good timing > Mine is out to dinner. LOL yeah if you and I were having an affair LOL > LOL THATS what I need... AN AFFAIR Lol! not a man AN AFFAIR > I used to have a thing with someone in Norway.... and in NZ.... worked out quite well. why ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh LOL > 12 hours apart > lol Sandra you get ALL THE GUYS I am going to start hanging with you to get your spinoffs ;o)) > :-) lol I suppose I will have to be nice though heh? hmmmmm LOL > Hooked up with a guy from San Diego last night. *sigh* He's gorgeous... but a bit too kinky. LOL > Nothing to be gained in being nice. kinky is okay for an affair > Hey, remember, I'm the one who got the damn 57 on that survey. oh yeah lol! well I was called an angel by overhead I haven't checked tnb yet this morning I got like 140 go figure get in here and phone rigns arggggg ok I am back what did I miss?? hehe, I was a boring 81 not much susie > Hi, Susie. some new for women sites out heh > Did everyone see Just for Ladies? LOL > gmta gmta? > It's a kick ass tour. I love it. just looking now I didnt get to the tour nope where is it? > gmta great minds thinnk alike maxcash > http://www.justforladies.com plus i am giving that ebony studs a go I dont have much black dude pics but I will give it a go > I just saw some.... oh, there's one of cj bad rockin' boys! > Web Legal. lol yeah I just dont have it LOL I have maybe 250 but only two guys > I want cowboys. LOL made an avs this morning sandra you need recips for avs? have to admit, I'm quite partial to a nice cowboy myself... > Put it inside, ok? okay will do > It it's a pain, don't worry... but that's just for special ppl like those in this group. > It -> If susie do you still have thumbalinas? yup do you list avs? yup and I list them on womens pleasures too if they are for ladies or couples maybe I will do Tibo, Sandra and you then cool thanks mmm, yum :) >>> Just For Ladies > Mistress, great looking, huh? the guy on the index page did it for me. so hot damn everyone loves that stripper dude I think they're all gorgeous thats pathetic when our nicest stuff is like more then 1.5 years old I love the couples pics, very intimate we need some beautiful guy pics again > I'm going to join tonight so will report on inside hehe, our insider.. > Well, it helps me to promote a site. nice tour... glad that they didnt have "couples" in the title LOL > I'm going to work on Purve... cj has done a lot for it. > LOL Sus... your site is an original. yup a pile o original LOL > Well, we need that. is there a new tour on purve yet? > You know, with the new pricing structure at Adult Check... three months for $19.95.. it would open up a chance for doing very small niche sites. You don't *have* to have the site on the link list. So you won't have ppl trapsing through the site. > I don't think it's up yet. yes and only 30 images The minimum requirement for AC regular is 30 images and for Gold it is 300. > Is there anything you'd like to see at WEN for when I do my the makeover? yers yes > I'm not so worried about the image count... I'm thinking more of the pricing structure and the ability to get re-bills. geez cj pops up like 4 pops > pardon? I get criticized for having one lol > Oh, you mean on the tour. LOL yes > I'm thinking about putting just one on Lady Lynx... or a blur. > With AC... you could do something like a black hunk site... not enough content for a Gold, but you could find some new content each month for an update. okay WEN when your listing a site.. the choice is "galleries" but that to me means one pagers... I think you should use another term for us feable minded webmistresses > Or a really good story site. Not some of the crap that passes for erotica on websites. I dont have enough time in the day LOL > LOL Open to suggestions. > You mean on Lady Lynx? > <-- confused. well just "sites" maybe... and then "galleries" is one pagers.. (oh sorry yes lady lynx.. you meant wen only ?) > no... open to anything. > I really don't want to list galleries alone. Don't want to give the women so much free porn that they don't buy. > But, i do want to have a "couples" category. I think she means stuff like, "his RockHard dick felt so "yummy" on my flaps and when he pounded into me I came emediatley" I hear ya lol > LOL only *worse* lol whooooaaahhh > Worse? I liked that LOL worse lol * Sandra` needs to go hang out in sex channels again. hehe it's bad.. > Love seeing what men are fantasizing about. > And scary. very scary.. > Last night one guy said he'd like to do it in a cemetary. > *scary* I hate that "whats your stats" thing I dont chat much > LOL hmm..secluded, quiet, soft grass...I can understand that, ROTFL! you would be surprised the ahem... guys you all know... that like the cemetary one > What, may I ask, is the "turn on" to seeing a woman have a pie thrown at her face? Met two of those guys. and librarians no OzMistress up on a what ever those are called with the moon ah, the meek tigress in disguise librarian.. the owls ye gods, a vault? lol! yeah what ever those things are cold concrete, not my style > Cold marble slabs? hehe > *shiver* well the guy is so friggen hot you would not notice.. give him the bottom LOL lol! I was just thinking that > I'll take my cowboys who say "yes, maam" whe you ask them to go down on you. *grin* * susannas rubbing hands together still...I'd get sore knees lol lol sandra stay on your feet then > I love having a channel of girlfriends. :-) lol LOL we are not your gf we are business associates!! CAUSE I SAID SO THATS WHY talk about all the men > So many of the women on IRC are prudes. They get offended if someone says "fuck" ... like they haven't heard it. > LOL Sus. sneak up on them and take snapshots > :-) some of them are adorable one friend he is a webmaster adorable, single, and very kinky more then susanna now that is bad LOL > LOL > Sus, you're crazy tonight. :-) hehe I do like justforladies should start to promote them > Let's see how good it is inside. about time maxcash did a for ladies I reckon i am impressed with queen erotica > Aly said she was thinking of me then entire time they were building it. Just pissed they didn't ask WEN about it. :( ok well just one shitty thing after another happening here > Queen Erotica is going to be sooooo good when they get more content. yu[ p > Susie? my server crashed for a bout 2 hours today why would they think of you and then tell you too LOL they should have asked > I was hoping. *sigh* just had to delete all my htaccess files arg have one gone arwey now will have to spend all night fixing htem > Anyway, that's ok. It's there. my server has lice...erm... bugs one thing after another going wrong > Susie, damn. :-( lol, lice > LOL I just sent themutt to Undernet to joing #cybersex LOL well server dude maybe has the lice then.. somethign is going wonky.. LOL brb just so damn discouraged with everything anymore > I love Cyberwurx... they are sooooo good. > Susie, I know what you mean. What's the problem with the htaccess? who knows I am not very good at them :( I did like tom suggested and hat the htolink go to a sponsor but then changed them to just go to the front page of the site anyway I must have gotten one wrong and it crashed my server then I had it rebooted and apache was going nuts now deleted all of them and it is fine again > Lordy, glad I've never had those problems. damn girl some days suck in this business between that and the lack of sales lately I am just ready to walk away from it all > No... don't you dare. I know the feeling... > but everytime I'm ready to give up.. something good happens. > Susie, do you do the admin on your server? nope I have an admin guy sales are changing Sandra everytime something good was going to happen it gets delayed pushed back or whatever LOL I think banners are useless now > I just leave everything to Chris at cyberwurx... wouldn't know what to do with a server. same thing here Susie I know that feeling > I'm inspired with what Max Cash has done. every since John fucked my over all I have gotten from people is empty promises me too another site we better get rolling on marketing same here susie gotten hired only to be let go a week or two later but its a bad industry for them right now they dont want to build fast free sites they want to make good selling sites > Can i ask what happened? *** TiBo has joined #WEN evening Tibo > Hugs, TiBo. Heyas. Tibo is going to be my sugar daddy your asking susie right Sandra? Just as soon as I find a sugar mama to take care of us both > Yes. Susie. that would be Sandra Sandra Officer and I were the 2 top managers for the ce thing was told there was always a place for me there and then he shut me out like everyone else filled me with bullshit for 6 months I trusted him let all my own stuff slide and lost almost everything she knows all the guys > Shit. "trusted him" is a key word for quite a few people > Sorry to hear about that. Damn. ce thing? I quit my day job in January Susie same time I went full force with my business... my own server... all my domains up etc yup both rob and I were working for them and rob quit his job so when they shut us out we lost all our income except for the couple of hundred here and their we still amde off our sites do you have your sites built up again ? *** TheMutt has joined #WEN trying to get them back to what they were but it is slow susanna whoo hoo i did it :0) > Hi, Pup...glad you found us. yeah you have to try to work for others too heh helllloooo laaadiiieesss .....xxxxx same here The Mutt... nice to meet you I average about 3000 hits a day from se's across all my sites hi mutt :) hi susssanna :0) ozmis hi :0) > Susie, that's great. What niches? but have only been getting about 3 or 4 sign ups a pay period <~~~~ isnt really drunk :0) okay themutt ;o) Sandra I have most of them covered LOL > Ladies and TiBo... he's plastered. ni om not...lol but that is 3000 total not on each site well all the basic ones anyway > How many signups do you produce from that? How many domains do you have Susie? I'm not really drunk is like famous last words isn't it? then with some key sites being down waiting for a transfer to gords for 2 weeks and the bot from dmoz ran through just after they went down I lost some good standing there lol but im not.... im tipsy but oim not drunk yet :0) about 60 Sus > Susie, did you lose any 4women or BBW sites? 3000 hits a DAY??? I don't think so Sandra > Okay, because if you did I could get those back for you. keep building I get about 20 sign ups a month not enough to make bank that is for sure Susie why dont you try to sell viacreme in your area Sus I have over 100 free sites out there now i get between all my sponsors roughly 10-15 signups > Have you settled on one or two niches to concentrate on so you can make a network of them? sus I am not a good face to face seller and I can't afford the cash outlay right now i only have about 2 domains i am actively using though but through me its no cash outlay and an ad in the paper Sandra I have a network working right now that is what I have spent the last week on still have to incorp the womens sites but the rest are all done what nice do you do The Mutt? i dont really do niche > Susie, great. :-) It's the only way to handle your own traffic. its to, for want of a better word, niched ;0) what do you do general stuff > Susie, what about AC Golds? i like to have general site then, nihe the sponsors not the content yeah I made 250 dollars on one ac gold in May so on a teen site it will go to teen ebony, teen gay, teen amateur etc on mature the same cept with mature ebon etc Sandra like I was saying before I have never gotten a site approved for ac :( so I gave up on them but I still have to do one for that guy that we had here that first time cyberage is really good I tried sexkey today we shall see CyberAge rules. > If you want, I can help. Or, put you in touch with someone who does Gold tours for $80... but you have to buy 10 at a time. :-( I make about 300 a month off porn for women that is a cyberage platinum site do you market the site specifically to women or do you cross market to gay? Dave is a amiable fellow. that is strickly for women mutt > I can't make Cyberage work for me.... though I probably haven't given it a good try. No signups from their link list to Platinum Sandra I think my problem with ac is the content its just i was thinking..... you could whack a few of them into the gay avs' and see if you get many results from them > Susie, that can be a big problem CA doesn't care about over used content. the way i look at it... most of the gay guys are used to surfing womens porn I do tours one at a time by the way ;-) thats how they start out apparently > Tibo, great... and I do need to get you some content for one. LOL > Mutt, how what starts out? well i ws told by a few people... well I just have to wiggle out of this rock and a hard place I am in right now :) I will though I ususally do tibo you never have enough time gay men look for straight men pics b4 going onto the gay stuff > Susie, we're here for ya. We've all been there. Never have enough time for what? thanks for letting me whine a bit :) its like a barrier to fall back on if the wifey finds it me... no LOL for working for others > Why would gay men look at straights first? can just say it was a mistake > Susie, no problem.... and it wasn't whinning. no straight men pics not straight sites...lol Sandra same reason why it is good to include on your staight site tours that you have some gay content Bicurious will sign up and stay for that > Nope. I'm a strict seperatist. :-) yep thas wot im referring to susie > brb potty break. Sandra... is there a chance on wen you can add some sort of list for "traffic trades" where we can list what we have to offer...sort of in the bartering spirit? increases recurring I understand and, if you can get some for women sites into the gay avs' you can market them as 'straight men' which as king said the othernite is a fast growing gay niche Tibo... does really good porn for women have avs sites? for the womens sites yes better to stay away from the gay stuff I was referring to general straight male type sites oh rite i c Have an AVS toplist or the main RGP site list AVS sites? Not sure what you mean. Oh. The 4women toplist on RGP gladly accepts AVS sites. can I list an avs site there Mutt better to build seperate sites for those rgp?? http://www.reallygoodporn.com/4Women true but, if you can make 1 sale from a 4 womens site a month from a gay avs your up a signup, thats how i look at it okay tibo.. will shoot you one today k plus.... a LOT of my straight traffic comes from gay avs' right no reason you can't mirror for it mutt with avs you dont have to say for women or for men... like today it was "ebony studs" ya da ya da > back (just checking my traffic stats...I for an erotic story site I got a hit from the search term "arrow in belly" - ??) exactly, get two sites for the price of one...lol roflmao Mutt I think their contention is that a 4w with lots of gay content will loose you more than one female su/mo robin hood perhaps....lol no, i dont mean to change the content aaarrrgggg I put "fucking like rabbits" on a site eons ago... and I get kids searching for "rabbits" all the time I cant get it out of the search engines keep the exact same cpontent just have a diff start page for the avs lol!! *** playful has joined #WEN Tibo there is a new niche the gay sites are seeing a lot it is gay men looking for straight men content to look at there > Hi, playful whew hi Sandra bingo susie :0) like fucking women content? yup I was at sharkys too LOL hi playful > Gay male and straght male content are NOT alike all the time. lol hi playful hi OzMistress hi susanna late as usual SusieS, I doubt anyone making 4w sites will complain about that ;) no they arnt but, what do you have to loose san? your only making one avs script page additional which take 3 mins tops lol straightmale content = fucking women? > On my for women sites I'm not putting a man squeezing his nipple or showing his asshole. you dont have to thats the whole point ANope sandra thats the thing Gay men like looking at what is precieved to be a straight male aw come on, i wanna see some nipple squeezing lol, NOT! the straighter they look the more the gays wnat them...lol > I design my sites for women. I don't want to market them also to gays. you can mirror avs if your looking for the traffic from the avs link list...otherwise only dmoz puts you in a for women category.. and you can make the sites generic but you dont have to market them to them , thats the whole point keep it hetro female just add a script for a gay avs > I don't do it. I may be losing money.. but I don't care. I'm fanatic about sites *just* for women. make sites generic... optimized for the key words... Sandra optimizes for "lady porn" key words... roflmao I optimize for like ebony studs... ex... so then gays or gals can come look > I don't make AVS regular sites with my 4women content... only Golds. Sandra this was a point brought up at Sharkys the other night Waiting for Sandra to come up with a banner that reads "Shoo gay men! Shoo!" rofl LOL Tibo > I don't want gays coming to my site.. I don't have any ads for them. you do!!! a woman with a broom > LOL TiBo... make it for me. Sandra gay guys are signing up to the for women sites i get sale for ladies secrets on ars from gay sites...lol > Great.... but I haven't seen it. hard to tell The Mutt ive even just stuck a banner on one of my ugas sites for that new mc for women site..lol that is women surfing the gay sites sorry you cant tell if that is a woman > I know they do... when Purve first opened I saw some comments on the chat board they had from two gay guys who said they liked it because it wasn't "hardcore" like most gay sites. stuck in gay true but thats another reason you should mirror them to gay... the women that dont know any better can move across to the 4women market I surfed alot of gay sites that is a thought > Puppy... drop it... I'm a lost cause. LOL roflmao, nah you aint hon :0) btw LOL what is wrong with a guy pinching his nipple???? Lots of straight guys like that LOL I have two gay men that have signed up for my paysite. lol, i think they just want a look at hubby roflmao some for women webmasters say "are you gay go here" and they have a gay site ;o) playful bi-curious : > lol playful... do you have an affiliate program? (embaressed to ask) lol Sandra, not yet, but maybe soon lol > Please think about it. :-) speaking of affili progs....lol playful what is your site? who is your processor playful? lol Sandra ccbill susanna does aff sell well for you girls? amateurwivesnaked.com SusieS > WARNING: Puppy spam coming! LOL lol no it isnt...lol > aff? adult friend finder brb > Not much. im trying to get spome background info :) it wasn't I stopped using them > I'll give you all a secret of what's doing great for me... if ya want. :-) (oh yuck...got a search term "free k*ds pussy" in my referrers :( ) I use sexy ads now] ah back noooooooooooooooooo sandra dont we dont want to make money LOL lol > LOL > Okay, I'll keep it to myself. > *snicker* okay I was getting about $50/mo from aff but they lowered their payout. ahhh come on Sandra > It's selling videos.... im doing great for ya hon? www.moviemountain.com they r good really > http://www.mallcom.com a great addon for like a bunch of places I can think of > You can see all the different front ends they have at my site: http://www.xxxvideos4adults.com do you advertise things like credit cards and stuuf on your 4w sites or is it just porn? > I'm going to request they make a 4women front end. > They have all the Candida Royale videos. > Everyone looking at the site? thanks sandra so cough it up what kind of moolah? > You're welcome. yes we are looking LOL > Last month I made about 600.00 * playful personally thinks that Tibo needs to pose for his own site.....she would be the first one lined up to sign up lol bloody hell...rofl > And that's with just a few sites. just in your gold sites? > Pretty much just from golds. I got a new site to promote a short time back just added it to my footer bar and got a sign up only problem is that their sign up is 14.95 per year LOL > And Platinums. > What was the site? TiBo's Mystery porn. I promise these are really great shots of me in a fully darkened room all dressing black. Trust me. lol tibo > The thing I like about mallcom.com is that I have so many different front ends... something for every niche. lol Tibo, i'll bite > LOL Tibo. you know what else is doign really well is the psychic sites... no adult related domains though Well I started creating this site to promote it from LOL but it seems to be going into a lot more tell me what you think http://www.sexual-positions-techniques.com/ I have a friend building banner farms and making 1 in 140 ratios > Sus... from Python? nope there are a bunch pyton has a psychic site? python even > banner farms for pshyic sites? yup