Session Start: Wed Aug 08 19:49:18 2001 *** Now talking in #wen *** Topic is 'Welcome To The Women's Erotica Network! Wednesday Chat - 9PM Eastern Time .' *** Set by wenbot on Fri Aug 03 02:37:51 -wenbot- Welcome To The Women's Erotica Network *** wenbot sets mode: +o Sandra` > August 8, 2001 Chat > Discussing Lady Porn and using email to promote sites. lol > Hi, Lee. hey hon :) > I'm tired of this. :( tired of what? > Feeling like crap. thought you were getting better? > I was... but went out for a bit. It's horrible outside. lol > The heat index is 115 > Temp about 90 with 90% humidity. ah... oh to have heat instead of dreary wet windy cold days :( > argh i like the humid weather > I'd rather be wet. :) lol bet you would ;) > LOL god, that was quick for me...l.ol > Can't put aside the flirt even when I'm sick. lol > :) > I train nightly. hmmm no comment...lol > Funny thing is, the one guy I really want... doesn't play games. Can't manipulate him. LOL *grin* > On mainstream IRC, hon. ive had to wait 5 days for servergod to sort one of my new domains out!!! lol mainstream....*TUT* brb just getting a drink..... * Sandra` grins.... but grumbles... sorry about servergod... I think Mike/Sharky was having trouble with them. > <-- Loves Chris at Conepuppy. :) * Sandra` pouts.... My latest Gold got no upgrades. *sigh* I think it's too "pretty" lol > Next one is going to be down and dirty. no comment...again...lo > LOL i hate my kitchen...lol > Your kitchen? i went in for a drink and came out with a drink AND a huge bowl of pasta salad...lol > LOL things are just far to easy to get too...lol > You can probably use the food. it was designed with that whole triangular theory behind it > Are you on ICQ? you walk in a triangle and get to any thing in it easily but its far to easy...lol yep > My kitchen is the least used room in the condo. lol i wish mine was...rofl > Can you buzz Sus and tell her to get her butt in here? number? > <-- lousy cook. > LOL im not in fact, im the best cook i know * Sandra` grumbles. <~~~~ does a wicked lasagne and sunday roast :) > <-- can work the microwave lol i dont have one *** geejay has joined #wen > With Yorkshire pudding? hey geejay absolutely hiya > Hugs, geejay. big hugs back at you! :) > Do you make the pudding in a big pan or in a muffin pan? big pan and ocassionally in little individual ones > That's the "right" way, isn't it? yep, specially when you heat the pans up with a little oil in them first they turn out really golden all over > :) and tonites chat is.... cooking with lee.....lol > My ex-mother-in-law was British... so had some wonderful Yorkshire pudding and beef meals. > LOL > geejay, not really. Just waiting for everyone else to show up. lol my fav.... take a big yorkshire, fill it with mixed veg and diced meat then.... pour fresh gravy over it and bung it in the oven for ten minutes.... heaven :) * Sandra` salivates. i got the idea...its cool > :) i wanna get an Aga but the other half doesnt want one :( > Aga? if i knew how to cook, i'd join in, but i eat poptarts cold, cuz toasters baffle me huge british farmhouse oven... expensive but gorgeous to cook with > LOL geejay :) do a search for aga ovens and youll see what i mean....lol lol@geejay > :) i hate pop tarts... horrid things... urghh corndogs too they disgust me....lol taste like someone has wrapped a cock in a tortilla....lol and taken all the flavor out > brb brb need more drink.. and salad :) > LOL > Well, there goes my appetite. :) *** Mistress has joined #wen > geejay, how are the AVS sites doing for you? > Hugs, Mistress. hi all :) hey mistress :) > Sus is on the way. got my drink , salad and a banana this time....roflmao > good grief. > You'll have to start catering our chats. <~~~~ not eaten all day...lol just thought i would fit that in there...lol lol, I just got me muesli oh hi....good i guess lol leecatering.com....hmmmm lol rofl even better.... porncatering.com.....lol lol > Oh, good one. i started AVS about 3 months ago...so I'm on a learning curve. And I can't really say how well I'm doing in any objective sense all food is served in the shape of naked men and women...lol *** Guest35022 has joined #wen > Are you making any sales, geejay? :) > Guest? oh yes *** Guest35022 is now known as susannas me! lol hi sus > Good. I hope you're getting some traffic from Lady Lynx. but mostly only the premium sites > I can't sell regular sites at all. :( > Hugs, Sus. i definitely get traffic from Lady Lynx > Good. :) hi gang i dont get any from lady lynx not as much for AVS...but thats true across the board prolly coz i aint got any sites listed...lol * Sandra` sticks her tongue out at mutt lol this server wont let me use susanna can anyone do anything with half a banana? I waffle between making do with smaller but higher quality AVS traffic or going after free site traffic more aggressively > geejay, the "galleries" get the most traffic. You might try making a free site with some real softcore stuff and see if the gals will go looking for the hardcore stuff at your AVS sites. > :) > I've found that the more Golds I do, the more money I make but the less BW I use. im thinking about developing my female domain into a tgp in the next few weeks magick is coming > Kewl. > Thanks, Sus. I get confused on whether I should push sponsor or AVS on free sites... Sandra I am getting lots of great traffic from Lady Lynx.. and big time sales! geejay how about both > geejay, I know... but you can do both. :) Sus, great. :) LOL > gmta > Or, do a site just for one and another for the other. There's lots of ways around this. I know I should...but the logic eludes me...makes it hard to pitch...:( But I try jinx personal jinx (you gota be a kid) same content same domain I really struggle on how to do both...seems I am one track mind two sites do you use ssi on any of your sites? > Did anyone see the post on TNB by Kelli about her "naked men" TGP site? i did I contacted her i use php on all sites told her about the chat tonight > Sus, good. she isnt a newbie would you not be able to use php in that case to make two sites out of the one? but is new to women marketing makes it easy to manage banners and links * Mistress observes it is not advisable to sneeze while chewing a mouthful of muesli... utilizing both sponsors and avs on the same content? > I rejected her site.... she took off the gay ads..... and then I listed her site. :) lol@mistress go find a program called phpads... it is incredible > LOL Mistress. Sandra I talked to her about the gay ads too gross mistress!! you gotta be careful though it's the pitch the conffuses me, Mutt...Like I have a tendency to think women like the softcore stuff anyway... lol, life's like that... 'naked men' site could be a lot of gay traffic > Sus, great. I'm sure getting her site turned down and also talking to you got the message across. so if they get it free...what good is AVS....I should push to sponsor at that point. coulda been worse...coulda been coffee, lol I think so.. I told her to make two sites on the domain.. or drool mistress....lol mistress on the keyboard lol, true * Sandra` grins. i often wake up with a drooly keyboard...lol > Okay, shall we start on tonight's topic? phpads is free... and its like ssi calls but it has stats on your banners etc you have to use php with it ok first take a courgette.. s;lice llengthwise thinly.... > phpads.com? nope then take a large saucepan.......roflmao at downloads.com or something like that * Sandra` thwaps Lee. lol > Sus, will look for it. fine by me...if I brb real quick it means I've got a customer .. :) > Okay, tonight we're going to discuss Lady Porn and what it's all about and how it can help us in marketing. I love it.. .just learning it sandra banners go in campains so you can switch out at a moments notice lady porn is listed in my site already :) > I'll definately look into it. oh yeah ever so quickly hon if you dont mind..... > Okay, who wants to explain Lady Porn? Righto..it's about letting the women know that the goods are out there. These are opt in subscribers and they WANT to hear about more women's porn. * Sandra` will take care of Lee later. if any of you have a tgp or ll directed at 'female' surfers can you mail me a 120x60 button and ill get them rotating on the 'for wopmen' section of my resource :) All the webmasters have to do is TELL me when they have something new and I put in the newsletter. > How do we contact you, Mistress? > (putting in some of these questions for the log) email mistress@electrifye.com > What type of "new" things are you looking for? or icq 5258948 > ty, Lee. :) New galleries, stories, articles, anything that's for women. > So when Lee does he TGP for women he could submit that? does it have to be free...or can it be behind an AVS? > he -> his Also, things like humourous anecdotes or jokes. We can put in a tagline saying contributed by so and so of such and such a site. Yep, Lee certainly could you have to offer something free but you can market your avs on the free content * TheMutt has loads of jokes.... about women....lol free, avs or Paysite. ok pretty much anything but mistress it has to be content yep. *** Magick has joined #wen so if they want to do a paysite or avs then they have to submit a review or somethign like that > Hi, Magick. :) hi Sandra ;-) and it HAS to be something women will like > So if I did a toy review, I could submit it from my sex toy domain? dayum..lol * Magick perks..sex toys? lol > :) we reserve the right to veto anything with too much gay content or otherwise inappropriate lol magic you surely could sandra > Kewl. what were you talking about sandra? i am interested... yes magick and sandra on the toys... would be great to have a weekly toy review > How often does it go out? weekly This weeks is nearly ready to go I will copy magick > Magick, tonight we're talking about Lady Porn and how it can be used to promote our 4women sites. how big is it mistress? ahhhhhh ok We've got an interview with Grandma Scrotum, the randy old bag, lol lol > lol I try to keep it medium length. About 5 features > And we can put a signup box on our sites? how much content? I have a free pic-of-the-day for one AVS site. Is that enough for an honorable mention? k signup box, text link or button - see http://lady-porn.com/webmasters and, is it purely email based or, are there links to html versions also? Geejay, if it > Kewl. Will have to add it to my sites. I'll also put in a blurb about it when I send out my newsletter. I've got about 500 people on my list, I think. is a genuinely changing everyday potd, sure At the moment it goes out text, but I also put up a copy on the website as the mailer tends to scramble things a bit. k > If I wanted to do a gallery a week... or everyother week, how many pics? changes every 31 days...how many days to you consider genuine? we are going to get a better email system soon... Also, the archives are accessible to anyone, so new traffic coming will see stuff from previous issues, so your links are still being seen by fresh traffic. sus, i have a nice email script you can have if you ant it :) sorry ladies, I have to scoot...I have two little ones to tuck into bed :-) Thanks Sandra.. mistress can talk to you about it TheMutt *** Magick has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited.) k Gallery, 10 pics is fine > Night, Magick. Hope you'll stop in again..... drat > Kewl. preferably softcore on html pages or images only? > Definately. yes softcor...or blurred in the very least I like cropped ;o) you want it on a page TheMutt because the idea is you get to put links or banners etc you get the traffic html pages okay k > They would be lead-ins to my hardcore AVS or a pay site. yep and how many subscriers do you currently have? > What other types of things are you looking for? we would love imagination!! put a few jokes on a page instead of pictures or both 400 what ever you got... mix it up! and rising :) > <-- got some great jokes. :) so its gonna produce a nice amount of traffic t=for sites that get mentioned :) > I'll get it on Lady Lynx... that should help some. <~~~ is a joke :D Exactly Mutt Which is why we also need you guys to help promote Lady Porn. > And keeps our names in the women's mind. More traffic = more signups > It'll go on all my sites in the next few days. *** RevSassy-AdultWriters has joined #wen can we change the signup box? the reason we are doing it this way is that the reality is that we all really share the surfers anyways... it helps us with content for a weekly mailer and it helps all the 4women webmasters too That's great, thanks Sandra > Hi, Sassy. :) hi Sandra` :) hi RevSassy-AdultWriters > Sassy, glad you joined up. :) hi susannas glad to be here Sandra` :) been meanin to but i keep forgettin LOL > Seeing AdultWriters got me thinking... what about stories? Could it be a link to a few stories? perfect We're also open to prize donations for contests on the list * TheMutt has just had the living daylights scared out of him by mistress adding to her icq list...lol sure could Sandra > Mistress, would love to know about the contests. Have thought of doing one, but have wondered about the legalities. a few?...how about one story! So if anyone can spare something for contests, you'll get a plug along with that. How so Sandra? mainstream does contests all the time *** TiBo has joined #wen yeah, the us have some *VERY* weird laws about contests online > I know... but talking to falcon he said there could be problems. > Hugs, TiBo. what they do is there can be a actual contest but everyone gets a chance and you have to do the skill testing question hey Tibo! hey tibo Make it a skill based one..send in the best joke/story/anecdote etc winner gets a prize courtesy of YOURSITE Hey folxs. with a juicy link nearby :) *** Chazz has joined #wen > I know that's what they have to do in Canada... the skill-based... a friend from Canada explained that to me. hi tibo hi Chazz if we make the prize not adult content... like a bath basket...can that be so bad? hey TiBo > Hi, Chazz... welcome to the WEN chat. yes sandra or skill testing question its not the prize its more how they win it Nope, that would be fine too i had to come in and say hi Hey Chazz. Long time no see. Hey Sassy. hi Sandra` yo have to 'declare' certainn things to the irs Pretty much anything that's postable and not illegal will be fine, lol and technically speaking its my mailer and I am a canadian LOL but hosted in the usa > <-- I have a few sex toys I could donate (still in box... not used) LOL i know man phew, Sandra... lol, why do i doubt that sandra.....lol had me worried there.. long as Grandma Scrotum doesn't donate any we will be fine, lol!! > <-- won two auctions for sex toys. lol LOL (Now you'll all have to sign up for the newsletter to see what I'm talkign about, lol) * Sandra` blushes. What can I say? she has t hide them when the gas man comes round to read her meters...l.ol has everyone seen the site? > Will definately sign up for it. have we urled in the chat? > Do it again, hon. http://www.lady-porn.com > ty I can put up an incense package for a prize (I retail incense at my internet cafe), but anything will do :) > Kewl. > Lee and TiBo can offer phone sex. *grin* lol Lol!!! lol Why not? You what you mean offer? there is always memberships ;o) like to couples sex... but we could solicit a few other for women sites.. I am sure queenerotica and maybe purve would be interested * Sandra` grins. i'll offer the scripts hehe would be suprised what people will want to win, lol oh yes!! tibo for a day lol lol could offer them the chance to start their own porn sites....lol > Chazz, have you done any 4women sites? rotfl whack a link to ars in there and make $20.....lol there is about how many webmasters involved now Mistress? * Sandra` thwaps da mutt lol so far only three on the webmaster list. * TiBo is looking around suspiciously > Mutt, they go and look, but no one signs up with ARS. :( (webmasters, that is) well TheMutt we will put reviews of the biggies in with our partner codes... yeah i have noticed that :( if you want to make the sales...offer up some content and put your own review on the page > Mistress, tell us about the webmaster mailing list. we have a webmaster list at Yahoo to keep everyone informed. go to http://groups.yahoo.com/group/LPwebmasters ill add a link on my next newsletter to webmasters for you mistress Mistress there are more webmasters involved but the mailing list is new... Oceania was doing stuff and the mail box is up in a few places It's mainly for me to keep everyone informed and psyched about Lady Porn. but it's not moderated and anyone can post, so if there are any comments, ideas suggestions etc, feel free to say so onlist can you send out a reminder a few days ahead to all on the list? * TheMutt has had a great idea..... > Just joined the webmaster mailing list. Sure can :) Good girl :) lol * RevSassy-AdultWriters joined too LOL I've kept it approval only to make sure we don't get just anyone wandering in feel free to ask questions RevSassy-AdultWriters if you missed some part thx susannas ;) > Good idea. My email will show up as LadyPassionPublishing@yahoo.com i'm just observing LOL no prob :) it woudl be really cool to showcase those of us in marketing to women... and our "motto or purpose or what ever" > Just wanted you to know it was me. :) * TheMutt jotting that addie down to add to hs mailing list...lol > LOL lol what kind of list do you have TheMutt wouldnt be the first time ive sent sandra a load of crap through email and.... sure wont be the last....roflmao lol > All my domain emails go to that Yahoo account. Has cut down loads on my personal email box getting spammed. btw thanks for the upcoming plug whoever mentioned it...sorry lost track of it. > LOL np > Sassy, gotta ask... what's AdultWriters? brb about to get booted by my shitty uk isp..... > :( > Bring me some tea, Lee. lol! LOL sandra adultwriters.com is my content site: we write exclusive and non exclusive writing everything from text ads to stories & webmaster articles > Kewl! cool! i just added a note about it to the board yesterday ;) in the content section :) *** TheMutt has quit IRC (Connection reset by peer.) *** doggydoos has joined #wen *** doggydoos is now known as TheMutt > Great,.... but put one in the General category, too. > wb Lee ty site looks good.. .will be buying your stories special ok ty Sandra` didnt want told that it was spam lookin forward to it susannas :) site looks very cool > Do you have a listing for rates? ty :) what have i missed? we have selective spam.. if it is useful to us lady marketers! its not spam LOL and I'm racing susanna for the story pack Sandra` let me get you the url its in the FAQ section ok susannas LOL lol geejay > Sassy, if you posted everyday with a hit and run post I'd have a problem, but not an introductory post and letting us ask questions. * TheMutt jots that down to...lol cool Sandra` i'll post another 1 on the general board with prices & all :) i hang on the boards but like i said dont wanna spam LOL ;) some of these ladies are great writers if you need more help ever > And any information you have for writers. why havent youlisted your sites at... myurl.com...rofl 'selective spam'....lol jinx sandra > lol i'm always lookin for writers Sandra` > Kewl... I get a lot of people writing asking where they can sell their smut. more than anything i need access to more written material...so you are a welcome addition to my content bookmarks Whoops, before I forget, Lady Porn is for straight, bi and lesbian women, so anything that will appeal to any of the three is fine for the LP newsletter... > some is good... some is hiddeous... I'll send the "good" along. hit me up in email we'll work it out LOL ;) anything@adultwriters.com oo goodie.... lesbian women..... mwahahaha Mistress i'm doin a lesbian story pack atm ;) Long as it's not for-men pretending to be for-women RevSassy-AdultWriters go to http://www.adult-temp-staff.com and put your request in.. I have 75+ freelancers listed with us and a fair amount of them write got oodles of lesbian sites....lol lol, that's what reminded me Sassy cool susannas :) > Amen about the for men. that's an interesting point mistress How bout men pretending to be lesbians? Hmmm.... * TheMutt blushing innocently i tend toward couples and "hardcore" that would suck TiBo * Mistress is ruminating on that one... another thing...when you go to the lady porn site take note that its marketing to women...straight, bisexual and lesbian forget who asked about rates but here ya go ;) http://www.adultwriters.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=FAQ&file=index and I have trouble with some linklists that don't recognize that women All night long Chazz. ;) > LOL Chazz is still here. are interested in something more than naked hunks ya he showered but returned LOL i just jump in the show and back out that was lionel ritchie wasnt it tibo? lettin me take care of marketing tonite hehe > ty, Sassy... for the rates info. so where do you draw line between couples and "for-men" hardcore? yw Sandra` hope to work w/ u soon ;) Yeah. Circa 1982 Mutt. revsas, i hope to 'work' with her soon also...lol > Sassy, we all stick together and help each other out. geejay its all in the pictures ... if they are PORN or erotica lol TheMutt :P the line moves, lol...I just have to judge on my personal feelings on the matter... I can expand if you want Sandra` thats what i like about WEN :) i like wen for that and the fact its full of top tottie :) > ty, Sassy... is made that way because of all the great people that are there. * Sandra` grins. but we'd rather link to softcore and have the girls PAY for the hardcore, so it shouldn't be too much of an issue for Lady Porn You have to select stories that rate higher than 5 on the Estro-tosterone meter. Testosterone 0 [---+---+---+---+---+---] 10 Estrogen. We strongly recommend and encourage softcore > LOL TiBo * RevSassy-AdultWriters smiles at Sandra` yes mistress... put in foreplay pictures and put the sex shots behind avs > Amen to softcore. yep > We are doing it right from the start. I meant "hardcore" in the sense the models are a man and woman... No point giving away the whole cow lol TiBo i just caught that hehe > He's so creative. i hardly want to give away fully-clothed thumbnails much less sex pics...lol brb getting another drink.... ya he is Sandra` stories are different... we can put the first paragraph in the mailer or a small blurb about it... you put the story on your site and you decide if you want to put the entire story or say>>>>for the rest go to this avs or this pay site * TheMutt ears are burning for somereason.... Well...I'm sure you'd have a pretty good idea what pics are aimed at men.. but in the end it *will* come to down me and/or Sus as to what we think is appropriate. However, we'll always explain if we think something isnt' Here's another freebie for the horny chicks. http://www.patscottintertainment.com/TheLongLegsOfTheLaw.txt i know what I like... :) what is really cool is cropping... focus on the two people looking at each other eye to eye... obviously fucking but you dont see it...that is a tease if I ever saw one... "want to see the rest of the story?...." but it's hard to tell what other people think is too hard or too gay (to read I mean (at your leasure (for your reading pleasure))) lol, the softer and straighter the better > Drat, TiBo... I thought I could put it on my site. :) thanks tibo...:) geejay if you like it then I cannot imagine it being rejected..if it is we would tell ya why > I know that seeing an ad for absolutelymale.com on a site makes me suspicious of what the webmaster is looking for. LOL Quite welcome. lol yep, that's what I said lol sandra you basically can filter that traffic all you like... if I was you I woudl say "welcome lady porn ladies" or what ever... the thigns you offer in the mailers are archived so its in your best interest to leave those pages up permanently ... I'd say 11 times out of 10 the webmaster's looking for sign ups to absolutely male. i'm pretty sure we're all on the same page...it's just sometimes those lines get fuzzy and well, it's hard to be on the frontier of womens porn lol > But, we do seem to have some influence. Sus talked to someone who started a new TGP for women, and I had to reject the site because of too much gay advertising. But, she changed things and it's now listed. lol, tell us about it gj I mean this new script i have just aquired has opened up a whole world of opportunitys for me and sandra she just didnt know I am not even sure she knew that the site would be offensive to women got plans for loads of neat stuff in the coming weeks :) brb need a drink of water > I don't know how "offensive" it is... but to me, it's like *sigh* Can't I find *something* that is just for me (a woman) that I don't have to share with another group? TheMutt are you itching to tell us? ;o) do tell!! Gotta run myself. Catch y'all next week. nope im not....lol > Night, TiBabe *kiss* im a tease....lol *** TiBo has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited.) cyas tibo I know it sandra I just started to love gay men too LOL > :) sandra.... so if you have a high traffic area feel free to put up the collection box when you gonna introduce me to your 'other half' on the net? > We want to make sure that what people understand it's nothing against gay sites or men... it's just we want our "own" stuff. I love all my lucrative little niches...but 4women poses a special kind of dilemma it makes us happy... you will like us when we are happy we are even more generous with the traffic ;o)