Session Start: Wed Aug 22 19:43:33 2001 *** Now talking in #wen *** Topic is 'Welcome To The Women's Erotica Network! Wednesday Chat - 9PM Eastern Time .' *** Set by wenbot on Sun Aug 19 13:36:54 -wenbot- Welcome To The Women's Erotica Network *** wenbot sets mode: +o Sandra` *** december has joined #wen > Hi, December. :) morning sandra how u doing? > Doing much better. :) damn, my nick is about to get changed..hang on lol > k i keep forgetting to put my password in. good to know you are feeling better :) i am in my dressing gown still lol > Yep, was beginning to wonder. > I'm in bed. LOL lol > Is cj going to show up? don't think cj will be here today...she had a bereavement recently that's i am here from home this morning. > Oh, I'm sorry to hear that. :( it's ok...she seems quite positive about it all. has there been any word on the chat transcripts going up yet sandra? > making a note right now.... hold on. ok > Okay... now there's a note staring me in the face. :) lol, i am like that.....if i don't have it in B I G letters around me i forget :) > Hold on a sec... just been at another chat and need a potty break break between chats. :) i won't be able to stay long today unfortunately....are ayou expecting many people? ok *** Lee has joined #wen evenin gurleez :D hey sweetie pie > Hi.... brb .... pit stop. hi lee lol hows you december? not bad thanks lee glad to hear it :D tired........these chats are too early lol *** Hackman has joined #wen hi hackman Yo! lol to early? hey hackman yep its about 11am here well, its 2am here....rofl * december is wearing her dressing gown and trying not to fall asleep think i have more to complain about...roflmao *** playful has joined #wen hey playful :D ah i made it Hello All hi Lee nope you don't lee....rofl...i am normally working till that hour hi Hackman lol hi playful hi december hi Sandra sandra is on a potty run lol lol sandra is potty....lol (you know im only kidding hon) hehehe > back * Sandra` grins. uh oh Lee, you better hide now ;D > Hey, we all have to go sometime. :) lol > Hugs, Hackman. > playful, is Sus around? hang on and i'll get her > ty I'm almost done Sandra. > :) ugh, i have a headache now > Sorry, playful. what we talking about tonite? (specifically, and dont say marketing to women :D) lol, it'll go away when i get some sleep > I thought that was a very good chat and show on TGP2. I'm going to be adding one to Lady Lynx next week. it was the best Yes it was a good show. Gave me some ideas for further projects! hehehe yep > Lee, we were going to talk about a few things.... a survey for all of us to use on sites to do market research. k > And there was something else... LOL Let me check the board. :) sex? lol Lee > duh well? does anyone want sex? lol if she has to check the board for that, then i'm right behind her lol > Also, I said we'd talk about TGP2s for women. :) oh *** susanna has joined #wen > Hugs, Sus. hey susanna hey sus sorry I am late... playful thanks for the school bell > LOL OK, am I the only guy here again? welcome yep...roflmao lol > No, Hackman... atleast we think Lee is male.... or human atleast. lol barely.... human :D > Barely male? LOL barely male or barely human ;-) lol lol hmmm, new niche > Both. lol bare male humans? could be a good niche...lol > I had a long talk with Jim from PornUSA and he's open to doing a LOT of male shoots for us. :) *** Mistress has joined #wen > Hugs, Mistress. hi Mistress hi all :) tammie :) I thought all males where...okay whats the topic tonight ? ;o) lol lee > Topics: Our marketing survery... first. Then we can discuss TGP2, and anything else we come up with. im not gonna be around for a week from tomorrow servery ;o) off on vacation :D servery? brb, cat is crying to go out > Mistress, but I'd like you to give another plug for Lady Porn... we need a constant reminder of it. yep, thats where school dinners are server from...lol Yeah was going to ask if anyone has anything for this weeks issue > LOL > <-- tired. > Survey hmm I've still got 3 vacant spots for anything for-women to be mentioned in LP > Mistress, can I submit a TGP2 male gallery? :) sure, long as it's reasonably soft :) can i submit a pair of worn boxers? > Very soft. :) lol * Sandra` gives Lee forty lashes with a wet noodle. they are hon...roflmao ty hon :D lol, if you can fit em down the phone line, Lee, go for it :) lol no prob Sandra :) hmmm.... pondering a new business venture.... brb... looking for some free odomains.... Let me know in the next 24 hrs, I'll be sending out LP tomorrow I think its perfect sandra.. we can set our own rules... less content more tease > Regarding the "survey".... does anyone have any experience with creating polls or surveys? I was talking to falcon today and he said that the questions have to worded carefully so as not to lead the person to a certain answer. yep yep i have oh, yep to sus not sandra, lol > Will get the gallery done and up tonight. you have to use questions that use the following........ I used to do interviews for Morgan Gallup, lol which, who, have, when, how, open questions yeah > Mistress and Lee, great. they have to answer with a lengthy-ish answer because if they say yes or no they sound stoopid...rofl for example..... Every TGP2 site listed on Midnights TGP2 Submitter was invalid. Where is there a link list of sorts of TGP2s? hang on hackman, i have a list which message board would you find most useful for marketting to women? you cant answer it yes or no....rofl And always have an other/don't know option for multiple choice questions...I hate beign forced to pick an answer when there's nothing close to what I would have said.. and then you could say..... and why? http://www.thetipsysheep.com/cgi-bin/tgp2/dbspace.cgi > Okay, here's an example of something I was thinking we could ask: Have you ever joined a membership site? If so, was it: A - general B - for women How long did you stay a member (# of month options) ....... then, if they didn't join, as question about pricing... such as would if the price where $29.95 instead of $39.95 would you have joined? use that list Hackman Yep, if "other" ask for details yep good idea if you want to mail me a list of questions, i could reword them for you hon :) brb need liquor..... > Can we stay on the survey and then move to the TGP2? It makes it easier to follow. :) bring some back with ya Lee lol The hard thing is to get an indepth poll without boring the surfer or having them drop it half way through because it's too long > That's why I think they need to be yes/no and multiple choice questions for the surfer. I love quizzes etc, but even I get the shits with some of them that drag on for zillions of questions rofl > I take Gallop polls online all the time and they make it very easy not to get "stuck" on a question. q1, q2, q3.............q1000,q10001..... lol lol, yup > No, it will have to be kept to just a few questions and the set of questions would be rotated every few months. Good idea. > We are going to offer "prizes" for taking part in the survey. i would rotate them every couple of weeks hon that way, you get a good mix of the time of year which is an important variable > cj has already offered Purve memberships and I'm going to work on getting sex toy gift certificates. if you have four or five sets rotatiing every fortnight cool > Lee, my idea was to have the survey run for two months... give the prize out... then start over again. ah rite > cj posted the URL of a couple of scripts that I can use. > The idea is to have it hosted on one of my sites... yep i saw, she beat me to it by about ten minutes...lol > and then be "called" from everyone's site with no navigation so it would be invisible as to where the survey was. what about serving up different questions to different ladies if it gets too long... so we have 4 different surveys... you just randomize them or something yep thats a good diea > So what does everyone want to know from our surfers? > Sus, good idea. I will see if the script can handle that. thats why i suggested changing them fortnightly, every two months you can collate the data to choose a winner from the entire sets > Lee, that's what will happen. basically the same as randomizing but, again, you control the variable > And it will also allow us to adjust the questions. Maybe we need to be more specific about something. k yep > The thing is, we really have NO idea what our surfers are looking for. i do....lol porn for women...lol do i win a prize? lol I think one of the things I'd really like to know is what else women would like on sites besides the obvious pics... what would make the site sticky? > *thwap* lol if you change the questions to allow for different seasons, or different continents etc...maybe you will find changes in attitudes dependent on where people are situated? mistress knows... we had one lady say "I WANT SEX" lol lol! thats good too december > lol got to go phone call :( yeah, use the browser type to change the questions > Mistress and Dec, great input. *** playful has quit IRC (QUIT: User exited.) > What about the "money shot" question? perhaps you could use polls also? there ya go, have a poll and ask them to vote on it > Or a rating of pics. a rating on pics could work every month, depending on the poll results, you could design a site based on what the previous months results were then ask them what they liked best about the winning pic? > Lee, the question would be incorporated into the survey. For example, I'm a real reader, so I thrive on sites that have lots of articles and stuff like that...not how to lose 10 lbs in 2 days sort of crap, but articles on stuff that really counts.. > Dec, good idea. they would feel more oblidged to participate in the survey then the more info you have on WHY people like a certain pic, the more likely you are to know what they are looking for in a site Good idea Lee! yep true women DO NOT want to see cum on other womens faces... I would not bother with that unless we are going to try to make a political statement lol lol i agree susanna they wanna see on the mans chest > Dec, exactly - and why we need to do market research. lol > Sus, okay, we won't ask that one. :) in my site I have pics like that but they are in a series that men would like AND WOMEN... we have a pic of a guy who's just come on his torso and lower midriff......i figured it would be pretty gross, but it was quite tasteful....however, cum on a woman....no thank s lol perhaps, you could set up some kind of rating scheme where surfers can rate specific elements of a set of site that are in the survey I think that sort of pic empowers the woman Sus that way, you get a more mixed response depending on what they were actually looking at the time She's so hot he can't hold back :) lol > Getting too complicated for the survey. It has to be general, not specific to a site. sorry mistress? I dont follow the cum on the man :) i reckon have 5 different sort of pics only........you don't want to confuse the surfer......pick 5 photos you feel set a scene or will give you info on the feel of a site...then ask about those 5 only. YESSSSSSSSSSSSS lets ask things like "would you like to see a mans face shiny with his womans juices after he has given her 1 hour of oral pleasure? lol ROTFL!! one hour? ugh, my honest answer would be NO. lol bloody hell!!!! lol my cheeks would hurt if i lasted more than half an hour...lol * december wonders if the guy uses a snorkel? well you have to give them the visual Make sure you're tongue is fit, Lee :P lock jaw sets in after 45 minutes...roflmao > Idea... since the survey person will have to enter their email address, there are the Lady Porn subscribers, and the Lady Lynx subscribers, we ask them to participate in a site review. We set up some type of polling/rating (no advertising) and ask for input. Same goes for headjobs babe, lol!!! lol how about "do you want to HEAR mens thoughts on sex, themselves, their sex etc" some people are too cynical for that sort of thing sandra.....they figure that somewhere there will be either advertising or hard sell. you give them a choice i reckon keep it more simple either you put in your email and get the prize or you done dont alos, you have to make the option of collecting their email > Dec, but enough would participate to give us a sampling. fair enough lol gmta sus you can say "if you dont already have one go to hotmail.com for your annonymous email" possibly...but then your sample would be biased. hey, you could offer them a chance to get a free email from my site hon :D well, the thing is we can only go on the feedback that women are willing to give us. We can't take into account the opinions of zillions of women who don't say anything. true, anonimity is probably going to get the best results > I don't think any of us are professional enough at market research to make whatever we do without bias. Unless we find an outside source to do the survey for us. they would be more inclined to answer honestly i agree mistress.....but the poll idea of lee's, rating 5 pics only, would more likely grab a LARGE sample of surfers....from there you could click on a link to give REAL feedback. * december ahem. i did market research for 7 years. lol dec * Lee just wants to point out he used to work for an advertising agency a few years ago lots of market reseach required for advertising > Dec, I stand corrected. :) I'll run the questions by you before we lauch this. :) exactly lee. :) > Lee, when you were 15? lol lee and i have similar marketing backgrounds i presume cheeky cow...lol well then you ask for an annony survey they do it and after they complete it THEN you say thank you... if you feel comfortable putting in your mail you can win a prize its our way of saying thank you for your time... list the prizes ;o) lol sandra > :P > Sus, PERFECT solution! you wait hon, ill get ya for that one :P > Lee, you're to far away.... and you're just a yougin. lol you could also HINT at prizes before the survey is started to try and garner more people attempting it. > I love these chats. They are a real geshtault (sp?) gestalt? gestalt :) one day, ill turn up on your doorstep and thwap ya...rofl when you least expect it...lol > brb got my kid on the phone. say hello to him from me :D lol lol btw lee, how old*are* you? have you all added your webmaster related sites to my new resource? 23 oh god....that's young lol lol it aint okay, not quite as young as my son, lol its almost half sandras age...lol lol, ten years younger than me, baby nearly 1/4 of a century....lol lol, same here dec i like older women.... dont i sandra...roflmao 23? I feel old * december high fives mistress lol! hehe lol lee Aussie 30somethings club :) ok is there anything else on these survey things? i need to go back to bed lol hehe she cant say anything, quick keep typing so it scrolls past the top of the screen....lol * december think...who the hell invented mornings? lol lee Sandra do you have enough questions or should we all email you some thoughts? lol lee shes on the fone ahh I missed that lol well we should help sandra some how so, how have we all been today? oh and susanna....i quoted you in an article i wrote recently on defining a woman...i forgot to tell you :) lol ohhh goodie... url me? define a woman? ummm its part of purve.com.....i will try to send you the graphic...its just a quote from the msg board..that one about wanting a man who doesn't want a cook or a cleaner hair tits legs sex lol but someone who wants to be with YOU and beside you. oh okay :) i dont want a cook OR a cleaner * december bops lee can do both perfectly well myself :D i just want GREAT sex....lol well my definition went along the lines of ......yeh right, for which generation? true dec which is why I married my honey :) bops? thats a 'really' old style dance isnt it december?...lol women are ever changing, and developing....they don't stagnate into a stereotype and stay there. you say that now lee lol lee lol lee...yep that's the joy of being an old fuddy duddy lol lol lol nah never said you were an old fuddy duddy :) sus, are you going to be doing the chat transcripts? hehehe lee, trust me i am!!! ok then, ill take your word for it....lol :D that doesn't happen officially till you hit 40, lol lol lee oh, i saw some content last nit eon, i htink it was ounique brb phone it was gay but, they guy looked very straight I dont know how december.. I will if I know how colore dude, in the exclusive section yes those straight looking gay guys I love em lol think there wasa twink style guy in the same area too skater dude type thing december, you wok for purve dont you? skater dude there thats what I want a hockey player!!! (canadian eh!) ;o) nah he was skateboarder....lol down an alley doing ushups and stuff....lol god my spelling shite onite LOL see there is just not enough NORTHERN photographers see....lol > Sorry, Dave only gets a chance to call once in awhile. > oh, I'm back. :) hey, who wants to fedex me some hersy bars and twinkies over? ill P.O.D > :) > Can you do that? > Okay, so, anymore ideas on the survey? yep thing ups do it more than fedex though > We can discuss a lot of this in the thread on WEN. where are you lee? uk yes lets sandra! *** RevSassy-AdultWriters has joined #wen > I started a thread... so just add your comments, ideas, suggestions. hi sass :) hey sassy gurl :D > Hi, Sassy. :) hi :) seems i always forget bout these chats :((( sorry :((( heya Mistress Lee & Sandra` rev, add your site to my resource if yo havent already please :D url? > No problem. It will start being listed in AllOfEmToYou (or whatever it is) in the next week or so. i have over 500 links onn it now :) good that will really help ;) www.webmasterproject.com ok Lee ty no, ty ;) i seen ur site last nite i think LOL i need a lot more submissions in the sponsor categories though lol > Sassy, we've been talking about ideas for a survey we want to start running on our sites to do market research. acp was googled last nite, number 4 for adult content providers :) kewlies polls seem to work gr8 > Also, KarenJ brought up something that I don't know why I didn't think of... reading books like Nancy Friday's book on women's fantasies. kewlies Lee wheres ur submit page LOL > Lee, congrats! Sandra` ? you have to select the categore it goes in then select add url at the top yep i thought it was good....lol d0h ok > You have a question, Sassy? just waiting for the others to kick in now been an interesting start to a day wasnt sure what u meant was all Sandra` > About the survey or the books? :) the books sorry LOL oh yeah, while i think about it.... i have a neat se trick if anyone is interested? maybe RevSassy-AdultWriters would like to know a bit about what women want in stories? just slap me silly LOL > Let me go to WEN and get the authors and titles. > lol btw sass, whereabouts are you? > Lee, duh... no, I don't want to know any SE secrets. LOL TGP2 lol susanna i'm actually thinkin of doin a pack of stories some day just for women its on my very long to do list hehe Mistress i'm in pennsylvania well, i made a dooray page, and hundreds of other pages all specifc and.... ah :) y? LOL set up a redirect to the index of a completely different site using htaccess works like a charm :D * Mistress blocks her ears...she's about to get totally confused by Lee again.. spiders cant see the redirect so they keep vivisitng the pages lee dont get your ips blocked by the engines make sure you have a bunch of ips i wont...lol > Sassy, you're not the only one. *sigh* lol i hear ya hon OK Sandra do you want the program? finished up somethin last nite bout to start somethin new in the next day or 2 :/ Lee u dont have a stories section :( i do, its in content d0h i found it lol shit what a day i'm sorry > Okay, everyone should go to WEN when we are done and look in the topic "Survey Says".... Karen has listed all the books and a link to Amazon. There is even a book on Male Fantasies. :) im looking for sites to use this resource plug in idea to > Hackman, I want whatever program you have. :) Can I tell others where to go as well. They can download a trial. hackman, how much you charge for a script? > Hackman, please do. Lee that depends on the script. Smaller ones if I can find a use to sell it to others there is no cost to you with the understanding I will sell to others. If it will take me a while to write or I don't think anyone else would want it then I would have to come up with a cost once I know what you want. There is a book I couldn't believe was on Amazon http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ASIN/1573440280/qid=998531521/sr=1-1/ref=sc_b_1/002-6462759-3748860 ok what i have in mind others would want to use....lol > btw, I've been contacted by the Kinsey Institute to help in research on Sexuality On the Internet. :) who are they? kewlies Sandra` Lee do you want to private or can you talk in the open? * Sandra` grins. :) synchronicity :) KOOOOOOOLLLLLL sandra ill discuss it later in the week im still building my idea at the moment OK everyone! If you are interested in a program that will do nothing more than separate horizontal and vertical images into their own directories then go to http://www.xtc-hosting.com/sephv/. oh good one!! You supply a source directory, destination for the horizontals and desination for the verticals and the images will either be copied or moved (your choice). It will even go into the subdirectories if you want. Does that sound like a program anyone would be interested in? your a genius.. I have many scripts I would wish on a star for susanna I have many programs for manipulating images. > Hackman, I think that script would be a huge hit. I will be putting them up over the next few weeks. Can I have one that will think up hot selling text links? lol I'm sure there'll be plenty of demand :)